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    Sheesh - worst bodge job ever, now with a happy ending.

    The things we buy...

    ...but I've NEVER had one this bad, yet still running (mostly - apart from the date).

    I have been after this model for a while, the MST477 (ETA) is very uncommon, maybe even rare. There are similar looking ones with MST478 (also ETA) but hidden lugs, which I don't like as much, but must also acquire at some point.

    Anyway, enjoy the butchery.

    Didn't look too terrible, maybe.



    Stem fell out instantly (We'll come back to this later). Note you can see the dial edge. Missing seconds hand.



    Crystal. Instead of the armored conventional plexi - home made, fitted into the bezel, almost no dome, hence missing seconds hand. This is a pocketwatch style crystal, homemade as the edges are bumpy. No doubt the dial is so bad due to this crystal which would have had no water resistance at all.



    Bezel has been wrecked with these three massive dents around the edge, so much so that the metal on the lower part has fractured. Of course the bezel doesn't fit.



    Second dent. Worse split.



    And another. Considering what else I found on this watch - I doubt these were accidental, but rather ham fisted.



    Urggghhh.




    Armored ring, cut. I think it was acting as a support for the bodged crystal.



    Glue to hold the dial in place.



    Movement is not so bad.



    The MST 477 I wanted.



    But... there is more bad news on the way. Post it after I collect my daughter.
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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Not sure I want see anymore.... Ive just been put off my breakfast!

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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparcster View Post
    Not sure I want see anymore.... Ive just been put off my breakfast!

    Marc
    Sorry Marc. But anyway...

    Remember the stem - well in order to fit the wrong crown and stem (not a 2 part), they knocked out the stem tube. None to gently and not the best for water or dust proof either.



    Dial off. Hmmmm. Missing screw, hang on. Not only is the day disk missing 1 screw, the outer date ring bezel thing is also missing both screws.



    Day disc off, and yet another missing screw this time on the date jumper plate.



    Also, missing one dial screw and goodness knows what else and, the seconds pinion is bent

    Camera ran out of batteries at this point, so sighs of relief all round I suppose

    So in total, missing 5 screws, and a good chance that others are in the wrong holes, stem tube, 2 part stem, crystal, seconds hand, proper crystal and reflector ring, crown and any common sense from the person who 'fixed' this watch. Well, they sure did 'fix' it I guess.

    Such systematic kludgery on one watch just blows my mind.
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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Thanks Kris...

    Just lost my breakfast now!!

    So.... you going to get it fixed.... or are parts as rare as the movement?

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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Movement parts are OK, because it is an ETA. Although not the most common a - ETA 2538R. I am not certain what (if any) modifications Roamer made. I have a donor (Wyler) anyway so the screws have all been replaced along with the day disc and those functions are now working.

    I've also had this case and dial for about 18 months, waiting for a movement and hands.



    So... yes.
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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Good. Mind - if I'd known I was going to get all this criticism I would never have mended it in the first place!Name:  angry_32x32.png
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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Good. Mind - if I'd known I was going to get all this criticism I would never have mended it in the first place!
    Hahaha. Can I have the missing screws please

    Anyway...

    The better case came with a rather scratched up (previous post) but original signed crystal - so I spent a while salvaging it. Hands needed straightening, replacement second hand, split stem fitted, correct crown, repairs to the date mechanism, replaced the date disc and lots of screws and a general service, and here it is.



    Correct hidden crown.



    Nice Mustang back.



    It is quite big, 39mm without lugs.



    And sits nice and flat on the wrist.



    I am thinking late 1960s, almost but not quite 1970s.



    Running well, and on the wrist for the day.



    Still can't believe the tinkering.
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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Can I have the missing screws please
    LOL...Only if you can find them in the carpet or recover them from orbit...

    Nice Work Trim!!! That came out really nice.

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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    Thanks!

    What I should have mentioned, it this all took less than 8hrs after the watch arrived. The posts were almost chronological - except that I had to wait until the next morning for the photos. Although, I normally take OK photos, can't quite do justice to this one - it looks so much better in person.

    Thinking I should put it on a stainless strap. This plain black one doesn't quite work for me.

    What about mesh? Suggestions?

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    Re: Sheesh - what can someone do to a watch?

    You have done a great job!

    Its looks great... its a shame most people will never see the case back!!

    Congrats...
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