Silver cased watch from Birmingham

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    Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    This one has sterling silver hallmarks from Birmingham dating it to 1889. The case maker's initials are W.E. which likely would be William Ehrhardt, Barr Street West Hockley, Birmingham. He was both a watch and casemaker. Both case and movement have the same serial number, 175489. It is key wind and set, and with Bosley type regulator. It has just been serviced in England (by the same watchmaker who serviced my verge fusee), and is running beautifully.











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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    Wow - it looks like it was made last week. Nice one.

    As I know nothing about PWs, I will contribute this snippet regarding the anchor symbol:

    "Why an anchor?
    Ever wondered why the hallmark of the Birmingham Assay Office is an anchor? The story goes that when Matthew Boulton was in London lobbying Parliament, he stayed at the Crown & Anchor Tavern in the Strand, a popular haunt for politicians. Legend has it that with the toss of a coin, land-locked Birmingham won the anchor as its hallmarking symbol, whilst Sheffield took the crown (subsequently changed to the rose)."

    From the Birmingham assay office website http://www.theassayoffice.co.uk/newsmarch07_a4e.html
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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    Good story and interesting link, Marrick.
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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    Wow its almost identical to the one I have been asking about only in better condition.
    Check out my post.
    Lovely watch by the way

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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    That's a lovely old watch, and made in Birminghams Jewellery quarter.....I was there recently, no nice silver pocket watches tho!!

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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    A stunning watch, Erik! How accurate is it?
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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    Quote Originally Posted by Shangas View Post
    How accurate is it?
    Apparantly exactly as accurate as a 1930'ies Junghans pocketwatch , they have been running side by side on my desk for 48 hours (including winding session) without noticeable difference. I'd say both loose less than 30 seconds a day. It shows this one has been well adjusted, while the Junghans should have potential for improvement.
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    Re: Silver cased watch from Birmingham

    Nice old English lever watch Eric.

    I've read in old books that English watchmakers differed from Swiss and U.S
    watchmakers in the way that they counted their jewels.
    An English watchmaker would call your watch 'jewelled two holes' and it
    would be instantly known that your watch has 7 jewels, this is because
    all English lever watches have two pallet stones, a roller pin 'jewel' and endstones
    to the balance as a matter of course and it was deemed unnecessary to state this
    detail as it was well understood.
    When the pallet staff, escape wheel, 3rd and 4th wheels were jewelled then
    the watch had four pairs extra or 'ten holes jewelled', a Swiss watch jewelled
    the same would be termed fifteen jewels. If in addition the escape wheel and
    pallet staff are fitted with endstones then the Swiss and U.S would call such
    a watch 19 jewels but an English watch would be called
    'ten holes, two end pieces'.

    This old English watchmaking terminology is all but dead now and most would say
    'thank goodness for that'.
    Last edited by radger; June 13th, 2010 at 14:09. Reason: spelling

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