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    Is it something I said?

    Hi

    I can't help noticing the departure (it seems) of a good few sellers whose eBay listings I use to follow regularly. There was a chap in Switzerland who always had a ton of parts, mixed with overpriced watches. He sent me an email a couple of weeks ago, saying that eBay was chucking him off for too many bad reviews. Yet his rating was high, something like 99.6%. But he says that he had a few complaints from dopes who were unhappy with his 'for watchmakers only' auctions. Not for the faint of heart, but good honest stuff. And so he has left, and started up on some obscure Swiss site…

    And there was another guy I followed out of Florida, quirky stuff, good prices and great to deal with. Bought some nice watches from him, but fixer uppers, to be sure. Also not for the faint hearted, but a dead straight guy.

    And I notice a few of my regulars now seem to return 'no items.' No holiday notices, and it's been a few weeks now.

    Is eBay elbowing some of the higher volume guys out? There seems to be a general trend, too, for more fixed price BIN listings. Maybe this is just one man's experience, but sort of interested to know if anyone else has seen favourites slipping away.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Quote Originally Posted by Habitant View Post
    But he says that he had a few complaints from dopes who were unhappy with his 'for watchmakers only' auctions.
    Whats that supposed to mean anyway? Not something i'd bother complaining about, but i'd buy regardless if it was something i wanted.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Ebay did recently enact some new policies and I know some of them may adversely effect high sales members. I also think they changed how some auctions and BINs work. I have to go back and review the changes though.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Quote Originally Posted by Habitant View Post
    There was a chap in Switzerland who always had a ton of parts, mixed with overpriced watches. He sent me an email a couple of weeks ago, saying that eBay was chucking him off for too many bad reviews. Yet his rating was high, something like 99.6%. But he says that he had a few complaints from dopes who were unhappy with his 'for watchmakers only' auctions. Not for the faint of heart, but good honest stuff. And so he has left, and started up on some obscure Swiss site…
    Ingolf? If so, I bought several stuff from that guy including my dead beat seconds watch. Very pleasant contact and good items he had. Pity that he left the bay.Would appreciate if you can share his new contact via PM.

    I think many sellers and/or even enthusiasts like us who flip watches, even if not frequently, favour ebay less and less due to buyer's protection and abuse where sellers take a bigger risk while paying the full stake for ebay.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    I have quite of a different experience.
    Recently I've got scammed twice. The first case was lost and scammer won. Ebay told me to go to police and I got zero refund. So much for buyers protection
    Will see how it ends the second time
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Ebay? Not Paypal?
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Yes, Ingolf. A very useful source of hard to find parts and incidentals. Will PM the hardest site to navigate ever made...

    Quote Originally Posted by Emre View Post
    Ingolf? If so, I bought several stuff from that guy including my dead beat seconds watch. Very pleasant contact and good items he had. Pity that he left the bay.Would appreciate if you can share his new contact via PM.

    I think many sellers and/or even enthusiasts like us who flip watches, even if not frequently, favour ebay less and less due to buyer's protection and abuse where sellers take a bigger risk while paying the full stake for ebay.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Going back to your point, what I was getting at was that the seller, Ingolf, had very limited information in his listing. If you weren't pretty knowledgeable, you could easily make a mistake.

    For example: he might list a dial, and only show it on a piece of 10mm squared graph paper. It was up to you to work out if it was the right size, for the right caliber and so on. Brutal, really. He did say 'only for watchmakers' and 'this may or may not work.' But it worked for me, a bit frustrating at times, though.

    I'm sure that one or two folks might have made tragic mistakes and complained to eBay. In my opinion, on something like this, I'm on the seller's side. Let the buyer beware, make their own choices, take their own risks. But in eBay world, the seller is always wrong and the buyer always right, even when that's not so. It's hard for people to sell specialist, low margin and unique items for profit on eBay when the odds are loaded this way. In my opinion, if you're a collector, you need guys like this, too. The market has to be varied, the good, the bad and the in-between. Taking risk out of it doesn't necessarily make for a better marketplace - it might, but then again, it might not.

    Quote Originally Posted by KasperDK View Post
    Whats that supposed to mean anyway? Not something i'd bother complaining about, but i'd buy regardless if it was something i wanted.
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    the seller is always wrong and the buyer always right


    ​This is not true!
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    Re: Is it something I said?

    Nothing is always true. But the default position of eBay with conflicts is to err on the side of the consumer. As to the scam that you suffered, well, I have no idea about the ins and outs of that. A scam isn't the same thing as a sale gone wrong.

    But in the instance of someone buying just about anything, then the consumer is more protected than the seller. Example: my girlfriend sold a pair of platform sandals on eBay. They were in great shape. Perfect, in fact. I know, I photographed them. I packed them. Carefully. I sent them by Royal Mail. They got to the buyer, no problem. But after she had them for a few days, she complained, using feedback and opening a case, not by sending a question to my girlfriend. After challenging her, we received some photographs of the sandals: they had been smashed into a pile of plastic powder, with the leather soles lying on top of the pile. Seriously, just powder, not a hint of structure. It's not possible to do such damage by wearing them.

    We protested. Eventually, after many hours of argument, eBay agreed to… refund both parties. WTF??? But the feedback stayed, 'because it reflected her experience of the sale…' Insane. She clearly decided that she didn't like them after all, and chose to destroy them and claim that the goods were defective. Insane.


    Quote Originally Posted by laikrodukas View Post
    the seller is always wrong and the buyer always right


    ​This is not true!
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