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    Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Bought this for the NAWCC Museum
    Was thinking of saying some thing like
    "How did we get from here:



    To Here
    The latest SWATCH watch, announced at Basle a ' mechanical (automatic) SWATCH with 51 pcs to sell below $150. Shipping in November 2013


    It will come in a number of face styles and sell over 1 million a year!

    Hope you like it
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    Last edited by HOROLOGIST007; July 28th, 2013 at 19:26.
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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Didn't understand how that time measuring aparat divides the day, since I see hour marks say from 4 am to 8 pm. 16 hours of the day is measured, so where is the rest when there is no sun? Or it didn't matter - maybe mattered just didn't know how - and you were supposed to sleep at that 8 hours?:)

    Am i missing something,obviously 8 hours?
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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    I like it.
    Everyone should have one of these as backup in case their old mechanical seizes up on
    their wrist.
    Here's mine




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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Quote Originally Posted by Emre View Post
    Didn't understand how that time measuring aparat divides the day, since I see hour marks from 4 to say 8 pm. 16 hours of the day is measured, so where is the rest when there is no sun? Or it didn't matter - maybe mattered just didn't know how - and you were supposed to sleep at that 8 hours?:)

    Am i missing something,obviously 8 hours?
    it goes IIII -- XII
    I -- VIII
    I guess they miss out darkness - no sun??
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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Radger
    Yours is mucch nicer than mine - older too I guess. Mine is bakelite from @1900
    No RaDIUM needed - folks . LOL
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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Radger
    Yours is mucch nicer than mine - older too I guess. Mine is bakelite from @1900
    No RaDIUM needed - folks . LOL
    I used to collect scientific instruments and am familiar with your model.

    The National Maritime Museum has some examples like mine and date them C1750....the poor
    mans watch at that time.
    These were made for single latitude use only as the gnomon cannot be adjusted, this example is set
    for telling the time in London, where it was probably also made.

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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    given that electric wasn't present at that time and the moon light would create shadow - except in one phase- could this aparat work also with moon light maybe?

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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Quote Originally Posted by Emre View Post
    given that electric wasn't present at that time and the moon light would create shadow - except in one phase- could this aparat work also with moon light maybe?
    Since the moon also orbits the Earth then its position in the sky at any time, from day to day changes position
    wheras the sun remains the same only lower or higher depending on the time of year.
    The only way to tell the time from moon shadow would be to also have a book of astronomical predictions of
    the moons position.... i.e an Almanac.
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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    I used to collect scientific instruments and am familiar with your model.

    The National Maritime Museum has some examples like mine and date them C1750....the poor
    mans watch at that time.
    These were made for single latitude use only as the gnomon cannot be adjusted, this example is set
    for telling the time in London, where it was probably also made.
    Very interesting
    Actually the Museum has some pieces in storage from 1600s!!
    I dont fully understand the principle, because as you know the sun does NOT rise across the year at the same place? Here on my balcony it swings about 30- 60 degrees between Summer and winter.
    Dont understand it all.

    Yours is FANTASTIC
    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT. FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL. THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE.

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    Re: Something Old, Something New, Something Different

    thanks radger, great informative post,missed the ref point of the moon

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