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    Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Hi WSIs,

    I got an Omega from the time, when it was still only a model name,
    not yet the name of the company.

    The movement is described here:
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...2uswk&Omega_19

    As numbering began with 1000000, the number 1248889 should not be far
    from the founding year 1884. But does anyone know it more precisely?

    Moreover, the movement has an A in the corner between the winding
    wheels. I'm not sure, but suppose, it is a quality code, as the movement
    is surly not the volume version, regarding the screwed settings an the
    Reed's regulator.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    I would try the Omega group too... Nice movement. It looks as new!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Hi Eeeb,

    thanks for the hint. But usually brand forums share more knowledge about
    more modern items, less about really old iron.

    Anyway, this movement demonstates that continuous maintenance can
    keep a movement young forever. This one only slightly exceedes COSC
    limits of today, and this after more than 100 years.

    And case and crown really can't hide extensive usage. No locker item atall:





    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    I like seeing watches that were used... it's great it can keep the accuracy after 100 years of use. Again, showing folks how watches used to be built!
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Ranfft View Post
    Hi WSIs,

    I got an Omega from the time, when it was still only a model name,
    not yet the name of the company.

    The movement is described here:
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...2uswk&Omega_19

    As numbering began with 1000000, the number 1248889 should not be far
    from the founding year 1884. But does anyone know it more precisely?

    Moreover, the movement has an A in the corner between the winding
    wheels. I'm not sure, but suppose, it is a quality code, as the movement
    is surly not the volume version, regarding the screwed settings an the
    Reed's regulator.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft
    Hi Roland,

    Probably no help to you, but I have this bookmarked page of Omega serial numbers:

    http://www.chronomaddox.com/omega_serial_numbers.html

    If this table is accurate, a bit of interpolation would put your number at about 1897.
    Regards from Sunny San Diego..........Tom
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    Re: Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Hi Tom,

    thanks, I copied several lists from the web, and especially for early watches
    they differ. Just for readers, here is the list from the Omega museum:
    http://www.omegawatches.com/cu_vintage/img/movement.pdf

    A third list is contained in a book from Anton Kreuzer (sorry, no right to
    publish it). This again doesn't match with either from Chuck, and Omega.
    It matched best with Omega informations about particular watches, but I've
    no idea, which is the best for early watches.

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Hi WISs,

    just to keep you posted: Meanwhile I received detailed informations from the Omega Museum, and try to translate it:
    we have taken the following facts from the archive:

    OMEGA - gents pocket watch (no designation in lignes)
    case no. 1'288'131
    movement no. 1'248'889
    manual wind movement cal. 19''' HN - grade C
    manfactured and dispatched to Paris (France) on 06-30-1897.

    Since march 1894 these movements got the name OMEGA, although
    the watches had usually not yet this name. This was done since
    1903, after the "movement" Omega cal. 19''' received a high
    appreciation on the 1900 world exhibition in Paris (Grand Prix
    Paris). Now the name OMEGA was not only mentioned on the
    movement, but also on the dial, with the according logo.
    The "A" between crown- and ratchet wheel has no special meaning.
    Further informations, from the Omega site, and from discussions
    in several forums are summarized in the movement description:
    http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-...2uswk&Omega_19

    Regards, Roland Ranfft

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    Re: Specialist for very early Omegas around her?

    Thank you for the update! ... I just mentioned this beautiful piece of horology in another thread.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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