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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    Possibly because for a watchmaker to "find" a junk movement and then turn around and sell it to a customer means spending the time and effort to A) find the right movement B) do a complete COA on the movement to make sure it actually works (since if it dies two months later, guess who's coming to dinner?) and C) repeat steps A and B should the movement turn out to be unsuitable. Collectors like you and I can do this because it's just our spare time hobby. Someone trying to make a living as a watchmaker has to have different standards. This is why you almost need to make a clear distinction between watchmakers who work on "vintage" watches and watchmakers who work on "modern" watches.

    A good approach these days is to source your own "junk" movement and present it to the watchmaker when you bring your watch in.
    Point taken.

    I do question taking on a job like this if you lack the movement though.

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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    I think asking him to open it up and show you the movement would not be an unreasonable request. You could also take some macro pics.

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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Rado was huge in the Japanese market for many years, so to have a Japanese language date wheel might be correct for that watch.

    However, without pictures of the movement, the rest of this thread is speculation.

    You need to take it back to the watchmaker for an unveiling. If he is long distance, get his consent to have an independent jeweler look at it and bring your camera.
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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Update: He said he replaced it with an ETA 2836-2. He said he would never use a Chinese knock off. He offered to open it up for me when I bring it in. How will I be able to tell if it is a clone-is this easy to spot? If it is a clone will it say SWISS MADE? Also, He said ETA makes three kinds of international day/date combos, one being Chinese/English. Does anyone know if this is true? I can't find anything about that in my research so far. I asked if he had a choice in putting in Chinese/English or Spanish/English (as was in there before) he said no...
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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Just thought about the logo. Does it spin? If it does it would not be so easy to put a clone. You need to have the rattling issue looked at anyways (for $400, I certainly would). When you do just take some pictures of the movement.

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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Just my opinion, $380 seems high just to have the movement replace....
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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Quote Originally Posted by scottjc View Post
    Rado only used A Schild or ETA movements so anything else does not belong in that case. Ask him to name the movement he replaced yours with and, if necessary, to open the case and show you the movement with the correct markings as proof.
    ETA movements are common and relatively easy to work on for a reasonably skilled watchmaker so I think you have reason to expect genuine parts for the price you were charged.
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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Well, op did already follow the advice given.


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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Quote Originally Posted by Idamae View Post
    Update: He said he replaced it with an ETA 2836-2. He said he would never use a Chinese knock off. He offered to open it up for me when I bring it in. How will I be able to tell if it is a clone-is this easy to spot? If it is a clone will it say SWISS MADE? Also, He said ETA makes three kinds of international day/date combos, one being Chinese/English. Does anyone know if this is true? I can't find anything about that in my research so far. I asked if he had a choice in putting in Chinese/English or Spanish/English (as was in there before) he said no...
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    Re: Suspect a cheap knock off movement replaced in vintage Rado

    Look carefully at the balance spring jewel shape. Even you do see the ETA logo stamp on the plate, the logo can be fake but very rare case, the balance spring jewel will be fake.
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