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    trench, or wire lug watches

    let's see some of yours. here are/were some of mine:

    my borgel




    movement held by a threaded sleeve





    difficult id on the movement, but after much help, looks like gallet



    next, an elgin that i sold. shouldn't have done it.



    and lastly, an interesting 24 hour trench. this is not the case in which i found it. it came in a case with an integrated shrapnel guard. i kept it in this case while a silversmith fixed the hinge, yet, stupidly, never took a picture of the complete piece. it was absolutely lovely and it sold for a mint. shouldn't have done it.


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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Those are really nice.

    Fountain:



    Waltham transitional:



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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Nice, I like that Waltham transitional.

    Here is my 24 hour dial Omega, very similar dial to Sherwoods
    24 hour dial.


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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Very nice.

    And my Rolex of course:

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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Radger: Watch is great and the compass looks like a nice piece of quality work. If they load, photos here for rare waterproof Waltham (1920?) and first Omega American 3/0 common size designed to be sold for use in U.S. cases. Looks like a high quality finished movement. Runs wth 1/2 turn and every thing looks original including the well fitted silver U.S. case. It did not come from an eastern European rebuilder.
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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    is that a 7 jewel omega?

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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    I just purchased my first trench / wire lug timepiece, and would be grateful for the forum's collective expertise on identifying the model and year. As best I can guess, it dates to sometime around WWI.

    The Zenith movement is numbered 2044924 if that provides any clues. Also, it looks like the case is hallmarked with an upper-case letter 'P' or 'R'. (I'm guessing this follows the Swiss system for silver hallmarks, but my efforts on Google haven't yielded any online references to the time period in question.)

    Thanks for any guidance you can offer,
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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Quote Originally Posted by sherwoodschwartz View Post
    is that a 7 jewel omega?
    Good question. It is and there is no jewel count or image for it in my good Omega reference. It is listed for 1917 and not one of the five original small movements started 1898 I thought it might be. 2 million+ serial is too low for 1917. Omega dial is old. Not Omega?
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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    Quote Originally Posted by s21519 View Post
    I just purchased my first trench / wire lug timepiece, and would be grateful for the forum's collective expertise on identifying the model and year. As best I can guess, it dates to sometime around WWI.

    The Zenith movement is numbered 2044924 if that provides any clues. Also, it looks like the case is hallmarked with an upper-case letter 'P' or 'R'. (I'm guessing this follows the Swiss system for silver hallmarks, but my efforts on Google haven't yielded any online references to the time period in question.)

    Thanks for any guidance you can offer,
    Russ
    Not familiar with that hallmark, but from that era, just because the movement is Swiss doesn't mean it was cased in Switzerland, right? Could the "P" be a British date letter? I have a feeling there is more info in the other hallmarks. Check out http://poincon.blogspot.com/

    The movement serial number puts it in the very early 1930's.
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    Re: trench, or wire lug watches

    That's in lovely condition.

    My Longines


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