But these are not Vintage.
I know I was roundly criticized (in another thread) for saying they were Affordables (well, only with a broad definition of affordable - the Ukrainians get a lot for them) or Fashion watches (those buyers are really their target audience - folks who know little about watches but want something with some unique flavor of bling). But that is what they are - Fashion watches.
And they depreciate like them too.
On watch forums it is usually somewhat dangerous to criticize instead of praise. Often people who have bought the kinds of watches of which you are being critical are invested in them (emotionally and literally in this case given their price). So you get push-back. Oh well. (In this case the OP (original poster) behaved quite rationally. That is not always the case.)
I see one of the major the roles of the Vintage and Pocket Watch forum to provide honest analysis, to the best of our abilities. We will sometimes disagree. That is fine as long as it isn't personal (which often happens - especially in less knowledgeable forums). Through disagreement comes better understanding (hopefully). We have seen this here before and hopefully we will continue to see it. (The 'groupthink' you sometimes see in forums does not serve this role.)
Anyway, I see discussing these mung jobs as a fulfillment of one of our primary roles.
I think we have become one of the premiere vintage forums on the .net... Google seems to think so too Thanks to all for that.
BTW, 'mung' is a term I found very useful in one of my past lives as a computer programmer. It describes something you hacked together from pieces-parts and of which you are not very proud. It usually works with enough effort but is fragile and prone to high product life cycle cost. It seems descriptive of these specific Ukrainian efforts.