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    My father is a watchmaker and does not know who made this pocket watch.
    It is a hunter pocket watch.
    He had it tested and it is 14KGF.
    No numbers or initials on outside of movement.
    serial no. 309570 on movement under dial
    15 jewel
    case no. 24896
    under dust cover says warrented with crown and 5 point star upside down.
    engraved inside lid JGB to ECB Dec 24 1884
    has a lever set to pull out and use winder to adjust time.
    no name on dial except weird initials I will try to describe and show in picture, but had trouble taking photo, so small.
    Large W with 3 horizontal lines running through it i think is an E with lower case a,e and c found it the design.
    pictures were all crap so here is a drawing I made of design on dial.

    Hope this will help to find any info on this watch.
    thank you.
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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    I have never seen that logo but that doesn't mean much...

    Generally Swiss watches of this era are made 'cooperatively' with a common design being built of parts from many cottage industry level suppliers. Tracing such watches to a specific maker is difficult to impossible.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    I was afraid of that. I have been looking all over and seen thousands of watches and cant find anything else. What about puting a value on this watch?

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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    What type of watch is it? Lever? Cylinder? Verge? Swiss watches (for the most part) didn't have serial numbers, and typically said "Swiss" somewhere on the movement to comply with import laws. The ones that do have serial numbers can usually be traced one way or another, but pictures are pretty much a necessity; the bridge layout, balance design and winding mechanisms may provide clues. If you have the dial off, the keyless works is usualy the most distinctive part of the watch.
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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    I will get more info. I have to get another camera. I can't get a close clear shot with mine. please be patient and thanks for your help.

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    anyone following this post sorry for the delay. I have some good pics should help a lot. please any other information you might be able to give me would be great, thanks again. Other info on first post. This watch will be going on ebay within the week.
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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    just a guess which doesnt mean much but it looks like the dial says: W. E. or EW
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    closer look shows like in my drawing above more letters. we figured WEAEC or CE or EWAEC.
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    Last edited by Raisem80; January 9th, 2011 at 06:43. Reason: ADD PIC

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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisem80 View Post
    closer look shows like in my drawing above more letters. we figured WEAEC or CE or EWAEC.
    That would be "W.E. et companie" or alternatively "E.W. et companie" (I can't really see an A there).

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Unknown watckmaker/watch Please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    That would be "W.E. et companie" or alternatively "E.W. et companie" (I can't really see an A there).

    Hartmut Richter
    I'd be going with this..........the W is just stylised, so it kinda looks like there's an A in there too, but I doubt it?!!

    Nice watch

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