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    Question Updated post with better pic later in thread: Please help identify what it is . Hafis?

    I have my great grandfathers long service watch is at very small rectangular 1inch SQ maybe. Its inscribed in the back of the case Gratitude for Good Service 1906-1931 with his initials.

    The movement no longer winds and the face seems very old and possibly both face and movement have been changed by either my grandfather or father at some point.

    Its swatch I would like to know if there is a economical way to repair purely for sentimental reasons.

    Inside can make out a word that seems like Hafis which from google was a movement maker. other than that a patent number thats is.

    Some bad photos using phone so can't get any macro focus.

    I live in Essex and commute into London is anyone has recommendations he to take it to.

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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    Of course better photos would help, but it seems all original to me. I know nothing of Hafis, but I suspect that it is in fact an ebauche and not one their movements. If this is the case then spare parts are much more likely to be available and repairs likely much cheaper.

    If it is a family heirloom then it very likely is worth getting fixed, but whether that is feasible will depend on what if anything is wrong with it. If it simply is that is will not wind any more then a clean might resolve it, but watches from this era did not have shock protection and a broken balance staff pivot could be an expensive repair, so perhaps not economical.


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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    thanks I'll try and get a friend with a macro lens to get a better picture.

    And if anyone knows of a specialist in east to central London who may be best placed for this type of repair.

    Thanks
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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    Hi,

    Hafis was a brand of F. Suter & Cie. They did not use in house movement, but did use good quality ebauches that were always very well finished. They are not a particularly well known brand, but they were quite successful in some markets. One of their best markets seems to have been New Zealand, with a lot of 1940s-50s-60s Hafis watches coming up for sale here quite frequently.

    I have about 3 of them - one of which is a particular favorite. Probably the one failing they had was that their cases don't seem to have lasted as well as some other brands. I have seen everything from AS, ETA and Felsa in their watches, so yours will certainly be something repairable.

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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    Add Peseux and Buren to that list of ebauches used in Hafis watches

    I haven't been able to ID this movement after a quick search
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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    slightly better photos


    IMG_5388 by ExCon, on Flickr


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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    I can't quite make out the patent #; what is it? This watch has shock protection, which is moderately rare in a 30's watch. Definitely increases the value a bit. Be careful with the lume though; it's probably Radium, and you don't want to breath in the dust.
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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    thanks, either that or possibly a replacement movement. anyone know some one in london area its worth taking to?

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    Re: Please help identify what it is and is it a lost cause as movement is broken. Hafis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspur View Post
    thanks, either that or possibly a replacement movement. anyone know some one in london area its worth taking to?
    Hi,

    This website gives a list of competent watchmakers in the London area...

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