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    Vertex Identification

    Hi to all!
    I just got this Vertex recently. I've read on a previous thread that The word "Vertex" alone, on the dial was not common.
    Is there a chance of this being some sort of a redial job?
    It looks pretty authentic to me...
    Francois Borgel case and a Revue movement with a caliber number that I can't figure out from Name:  vertex.JPG
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    Re: Vertex Identification

    I believe that dial is 100% original and correct.
    The Patina is perfect for the age, and the VERTEX and ALLPROOF fit in exactly with that aeging

    My opinion NOT a redial
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    I think the numbers (not the hands) are re-lumed

    Nice watch
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    Re: Vertex Identification

    I thought you might buy that Very nice.

    It's a Taubert case rather than a Borgel one, but as for the Vertex I have to disagree with Roland as there was at least one other Vertex that ended yesterday with just Vertex on the dial (and actually appeared to have exactly the same movement as this one).


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    Re: Vertex Identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    I thought you might buy that Very nice.

    It's a Taubert case rather than a Borgel one, but as for the Vertex I have to disagree with Roland as there was at least one other Vertex that ended yesterday with just Vertex on the dial (and actually appeared to have exactly the same movement as this one).
    Well its a BORGEL case made by Taubert
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    Re: Vertex Identification

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Well its a BORGEL case made by Taubert
    Well I'm not going to argue with you Adam, so I suggest that anyone who has any doubts reads Davids page on the subject. This case was developed and patented by Taubert and as far as I'm aware contains nothing developed by Borgel apart from the stamp. Still very collectable though - I have yet to add a Revue to my sub collection of Taubert cases.

    The Taubert family - watch case makers of Geneva, Switzerland


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    Re: Vertex Identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    Well I'm not going to argue with you Adam, so I suggest that anyone who has any doubts reads Davids page on the subject. This case was developed and patented by Taubert and as far as I'm aware contains nothing developed by Borgel apart from the stamp. Still very collectable though - I have yet to add a Revue to my sub collection of Taubert cases.

    The Taubert family - watch case makers of Geneva, Switzerland
    OK, understand where you are coming from. I thought you were implying it should not have the FB mark.
    Taubert bought and owned the FB patents and MARQUE - and continued to develope waterproof cases under the FB trademark

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    I know David site and article well - indeed I proof read it some 2 yrs ago
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    Re: Vertex Identification

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    I know David site and article well
    Yes, I knew you knew, but you'd just muddied the waters for people who aren't aware of the history of the Borgel name. Mea culpa - I should have included the link in my first reply to provide a reference for any such people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    Yes, I knew you knew, but you'd just muddied the waters for people who aren't aware of the history of the Borgel name. Mea culpa - I should have included the link in my first reply to provide a reference for any such people.
    Sorry to that. Fully understand
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    Re: Vertex Identification

    No need to apologise, my fault entirely!


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    Re: Vertex Identification

    Stop being so nice you two!

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