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    Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Just came across this very interesting watch to early wristwatch collectors.

    I have no connection to this auction but thought you's should see this untouched example
    of a center secs watch from 1910.

    Can anyone find the original patent for Depose No9846? where's Bobbee?
    or reference to the US Patent on the movement?

    Earliest center seconds wristwatch I've ever saw.

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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    the DEPOSE here is related to a drawing deposited. the movement of Tavannes. Also the American patent for setting the hourName:  tavannes.jpg
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Very nice find. I'm suspecting a pocket watch conversion though given the length of the pendant. But nothing conclusive without more investigation.
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Very interesting!
    That's one helluva ding on the case back :-0
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    The crown tube is WAY too long, I'd say that it's a pocket watch conversion.
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    I think this one might be earlier...
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Thanks for the input guys.
    I too considered a conversion but the pendant is not that of a pocketwatch.

    It would have to have been replaced with this long stemtube...would they bother to do that
    when it would have had a perfectly good pendant only requiring some hole plugs to where the bow was removed.

    So if someone did remove the pendant and replace it with this long stem tube then they also had the perfect opportunity
    to shorten the stem and tube if required, but they didn't so probably not a later conversion when shorter tubes were the norm.

    Pocket watch conversions are usually more obvious with the original pendant still intact and in place.
    The movement, stem and crown being made originaly for a fobwatch, no doubt, would require
    a long stem tube.

    I've saw more than a few early wristwatches with long stem tubes, I think this is probably original
    but now you's have cast doubts I can't be 100% certain.
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    Can anyone find the original patent for Depose No9846?
    This was not a patent but a Swiss registered design, which is discussed on my web page at The first true wristwatches

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    or reference to the US Patent on the movement?
    This Tavannes patent is discussed on my web page at Cyma: Schwob Frères and Tavannes

    Kind regards - David
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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Yes be interesting to see where this ends up, unfortunately I've already dropped out of the bidding. I saw that one too Jack - I wanted it quite badly.

    Anyone here get it?

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    Re: Very early Center Seconds wrist watch from 1910

    Quote Originally Posted by David.Boettcher View Post
    This was not a patent but a Swiss registered design, which is discussed on my web page at The first true wristwatches



    This Tavannes patent is discussed on my web page at Cyma: Schwob Frères and Tavannes

    Kind regards - David

    Thanks for that David, so it is a true wristwatch after all.
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