Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

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    Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    This was was recently found at an estate sale. It is a Civista watch, and is fairly small. It has luminous hands which makes me think it may be military. I was wondering if anyone could tell me more about the watch in terms of its age, scarcity, odd hallmark on caseback, and if it is worth restoring. Thank you.
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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    I doubt that it is military just on account of the luminous hands - when that was made, there were plenty of non-military watches with luminous hands. The movement is by Adolf Schild:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: AS 984

    You seem to be missing the mainspring wheel on top of the wheel barrel.

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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    Surely never "military"
    And in my opinion hardly worth restoring, unless you have the ability to do yourself
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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    Definitely not military. Age? 1930s, judging by the looks of it... There were 3 Civitas trade marks registered according to Mikrolisk:
    1. Civitas, registered to a Richard Fessler in Pforzheim in 1954 (I think this one can be ignored)
    2. Civitas, registered to Tissot SA in Le Locle
    3. Civitas registered to Moeris, St. Imier in 1904.
    Moeris would be my bet in this case...
    Weird hallmark? Post the picture! Maybe it can be identified.
    By the way, parts for AS 984 shouldn't be hard to find. If not for the missing parts, the movement would look to be in good shape.
    The dial would either need to be cleaned or repainted, depending on whether the darker stains are dirt or corrosion- dirt, in my opinion, the paint in these areas seems to be intact.
    I think this watch has something to it, which makes it worth restoring. Its current condition is quite discouraging, but I think you should give it a try. It's only my personal opinion, which is to some extent affected by the fact, that I really hate looking at a vintage watch in a horrible condition, and especially one, which might by any chance be somehow collectible...
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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    Thank you all for the helpful replies. Here is the picture of the case back with nothing but the hallmark I had mentioned earlier. Let me know if it means anything to you all. Thank you.
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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    sorry-pic is small but here is an early 50s Civitas that-to be honest-never knew very much about. It has a beautiful dial with copper ring and nice patina but other then that I don't think there is too much spectacular about it. Oh-it days 30mic. d'or plaque which just means its gold plated

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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    A Handley case perhaps? Was this estate sale in Australia by any chance?
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    Re: Vintage Civitas Military Watch Help

    Any chance of a better quality pic?
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