Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?
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    Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    I admit it, I have a little problem with eBay.
    This just arrived in my mailbox.

    I rather like old Constellations with Pie Pan dial. Obviously this one is in less than pristine condition.

    When I bid, I was rather thinking it was an obvious candidate for a re-dial, but now I'm not sure.
    Do you guys have any advice, or recommendations on who could make the dial look better?

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Definitely clean it first!!!!
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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Clean it. Can't figure out why people buy watches with patina dials and THEN redials them. Buy one with a riuned dial and redial that, or buy one with a good dial and keep it.

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Try a clean looks like the varnish as come away in some parts, just cleaning can be a hit and miss sometimes.

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    In my defense I thought this was a ruined dial.


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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Quote Originally Posted by paulmlemay View Post
    In my defense I thought this was a ruined dial.


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    Understood. Redial as in replacing with another or re-doing that one? I've never seen a restored dial I would want to own. Clean it. If you have another nice original dial, that's O.K.

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    The varnish is clearly coming off on the left hand side of the dial. Any cleaning will likely remove the varnish from the rest of the dial, while at the same time possibly taking off some of the print as well. It is a gamble, but one reassuring sign is that none of the print has already come off in the area where varnish has flaked off already. I would think this bodes well for any attempt, just take it easy, and trial your cleaning technique on areas with no print first.
    Here's some links around cleaning constellation dials you may want to look at first:
    Omega Constellation Collectors: Dial Restoration - Cleaning Degraded Dial Lacquer
    http://users.tpg.com.au/mondodec//Se...r_Conserve.pdf
    Nicholas Hacko Watchmaker: 1957 Omega Constellation: the pie-pan dial "restoration"

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Please be careful. The diluted lemon juice method in the first article may work. However, the methods in the second and third articles will not work on your dial unless:

    1. Your name is Sonny Dewan, who is a master at this craft, and
    2. Your dial is solid gold, which it isn't.

    The reason having a gold dial is important, is that gold, being a noble metal, doesn't react with most acidic chemicals. The gold underneath the lacquer will almost always be in excellent condition. That's not always the case with the steel or silver dials that most vintage watch have.

    I think that a soft polish to the case and a new crystal will do wonders for the watch. Try that first and only attempt the dial cleaning after practicing on some just dials with a similar pattern plucked off eBay for only a few dollars.

    Hope this helps,
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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

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    It's all very solid and sage advice. New crystal on the way. I might just try a soft paintbrush (dry) when I pop the crystal off.

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    Re: Vintage Connie arrived, re-dial or clean?

    Perfect or not a piepan chronometre is always a good thing.

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