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    Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    So I recently went on a family vacation to New England and stopped into a few antique stores on the way. I ended up with this stopwatch and two other wristwatches( thread coming soon). I only spent ten bucks on this and. I Only bought it because of Heuers name and heritage and because it was cheap. The crystal has a few minor scratches, the dial is flawless and the movement is clean but it does not work. It has a Leonidas/Valjous 7710 movement. It won't wind or start when the pusher is depressed. When I opened it up I thought the balance was missing but then realised that it was a high beat rate model with a smaller wheel.

    My questions are, 1) how do you read the dial?
    2) what model is this and how old is it?
    and 3) Does anyone have any idea why it may not work?

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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Well, you are only out $10. That's the good news.


    1) how do you read the dial?
    The outer markings are seconds and tenths of seconds which the larger hand points to. The inner markings are minutes which the red hand points to


    2) what model is this and how old is it?
    Heuer called it the 7710 movement... but it is not a Valjoux 7710 according to the pictures at OnTheDash
    It dates from the late 60s or early 70s.


    3) Does anyone have any idea why it may not work?

    It really is missing the balance wheel. All you have is the hairspring.

    Now for the bad news - this is now a parts piece. But I bet someone will pay more than $10 for the case. Try flogging it over at OnTheDash.
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post

    It really is missing the balance wheel. All you have is the hairspring.

    Now for the bad news - this is now a parts piece. But I bet someone will pay more than $10 for the case. Try flogging it over at OnTheDash.
    That's what I thought too but the balance wheel is in fact there, I can spin it and it will run but it runs quickly and I don't want to run the balance or ruin the gear train. When the balance is spinning it the hands run quite fast but the mainspring doesn't seem to wind down any. The wheel is rather small but my searching points to it being one of the high beat models. Right now it seems like a break in the flow of power from the mainspring.
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Eeeb View Post

    1) how do you read the dial?
    The inner markings are minutes which the red hand points to


    How does the minute counter work
    3-15-45-1
    15-30-45
    2-15-30-45
    We have 1,2, and interspersed with thre '15', two '30' and three '45'
    I dont understand it at all

    Explanations on a postcard please

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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Must admit that I don't see the balance wheel. Three minute stopwatch with a dual display of seconds and decimal scale.


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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    Must admit that I don't see the balance wheel. Three minute stopwatch with a dual display of seconds and decimal scale.
    I understand the counter is maxm 3 minutes.
    Well explained thank you
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    I believe it's a Model 33.220 "Century". The large hand makes one revolution in three seconds. I found it in the 1963 catalog on OTD.
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Rick View Post
    I believe it's a Model 33.220 "Century". The large hand makes one revolution in three seconds. I found it in the 1963 catalog on OTD.
    Thyanks, that makes sense
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    The pusher does three things normally, start, stop and reset. Mine will run only if the balance is flicked, it will stop and reset but not start after that. When the pusher is depressed it performs the action to start by removing the small cousin that holds the balance but the balance des not move.
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    Re: Vintage Heuer Stopwatch questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Addictedtowatches View Post
    The pusher does three things normally, start, stop and reset. Mine will run only if the balance is flicked, it will stop and reset but not start after that. When the pusher is depressed it performs the action to start by removing the small cousin that holds the balance but the balance des not move.
    it's probably just dirty and the higher friction prohibits a self start.
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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