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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    I'm curious how you came to that conclusion, given the differences in the bridge designs and balance pinning?
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Pleasure. It's a lovely piece.
    You know to NEVER change hands while it's repeating.
    I also recommend turn hands clockwise only.
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by eri231 View Post
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    likely this caliber is a Paul Ditisheim
    take a look here:Paul Ditisheim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    regards enrico
    Hello eri231,

    Thank you so much for the information about the movement, it is greatly appreciated!

    Regards,

    John
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    To me one of the greatest this about this Minute Repeater is that it is has never been serviced! It still runs and keeps excellent time, it loses about a minute per day, however after 150 years that is phenomenal…no one can complain about that.

    There are no scratches, dents, and the screws have no markings (the last person who tightened them was the original watchmaker himself), and there is no damage anywhere on the watch.

    I thought about having the watch serviced, but then again, why fix something that is still working?

    I have decided to have a custom made display case made for this watch and then set it inside and cover it and display it and wind it every couple of months.
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by AbslomRob View Post
    I'm curious how you came to that conclusion, given the differences in the bridge designs and balance pinning?
    Are you asking me? If so, it was my gut instinct… I always trust it…
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    Pleasure. It's a lovely piece.
    You know to NEVER change hands while it's repeating.
    I also recommend turn hands clockwise only.
    Regards

    Thank you kindly Sir! I appreciate the advice!

    Regards,

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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by John Vargas View Post
    Thank you kindly Sir! I appreciate the advice!

    Regards,

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    Pleasure. Worst is turning the hands while it's repeating.
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    That is a watch of the very highest quality, incredible workmanship and highest level of finish.

    I agree with Abslomrob, this movement looks like it was made in LeLocle, it will most likely be signed
    by the movement maker somewhere, often on the underside of the barrel bridge.

    Very nice indeed.

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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by John Vargas View Post
    I thought about having the watch serviced, but then again, why fix something that is still working?
    Would you drive your car for 100,000 miles without changing the oil? The answer is no, because if you tried it, your car would stop working long before it got that far. Watches like this are accurate in part because of the incredible precision with which the master watchmakers finished things like the pivots of the balance wheel. That pivot is the width of a hair and was polished to be as smooth as humanly possible so that the balance would be subject to as little friction as could be obtained. A tiny drop of oil is placed in the jewel to help further reduce friction.

    And here's where the problem comes from. Oils (especially 19th century oils) have a limited lifespan. Running your watch without replacing those oils is like running your car without replacing its oil. On one hand, watches aren't quite as "dirty" as a car engine. But on the other hand, you're dealing with a level of precision that exceeds anything you'll find in a car. And once the pivot gets a scratch or gouge on it, you can't really "fix" it easily.

    It's your watch of course, so your call, but if you don't plan on having it serviced, then I'd recommend not winding it.
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    Re: Vintage Minute Repeater Pocket Watch Help Needed…

    Quote Originally Posted by radger View Post
    That is a watch of the very highest quality, incredible workmanship and highest level of finish.

    I agree with Abslomrob, this movement looks like it was made in LeLocle, it will most likely be signed
    by the movement maker somewhere, often on the underside of the barrel bridge.

    Very nice indeed.
    Thank you!
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