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    Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Picked up a few more interesting pieces at the flea market on Sunday. I did a little research and found out that Mulco made watches for the German Army during and around WWII .and this watch looks like it fits the era and style. My questions are, Is it military? and what kind of movement is it? maybe AS.. Name:  image.jpg
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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    I think bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1158 or from that series.

    So maybe a little bit after the war - military style rather than military issue.
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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Yeah that was what I thought. But the AS has shock proofing and I don't believe mine does, what year did shock proofing become standard? Also do you know what the inscriptions on the caseback mean?
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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    The example in the pink pages has shockproofing - but that doesn't mean all of the production of those calibres had it. There wasn't a specific year when shockproofing became standard. It was available in the 30's, specified for some military contracts in WW2, and was seen more commonly after the war but not universally. A lot of 1940's and early 1950's watches still didn't have it.

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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    I suspect CDS was the owners initials - the numbers his dog tag/service number?

    Mass Shock protection (Incabloc) was invented in 1933 - most watches incorporated it during the 40s (but not all)
    I put your watch in the 40s

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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Hi there,

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    what year did shock proofing become standard?
    It wasn't actually suddenly, but depended mainly on the grade of watches and the market.

    High grade watches got shock devices already in the early 40s. For instance Omega equipped nearly all movements with Incabloc devices since 1943. For medium and low grade watches the transition came later, but after 1950 it became rather impossible to sell any watch without shock protection in Europe.

    Americam customers were more conservative, and the introduction of shock devices came roughly 5 to 10 years later. Many manufacturers didn't distiguish between markets, and equipped also watches for the U.S. market with shock devices. Others distinguished well, even some high grade brands. Here the Longines 23Z as typical example:
    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Longines 23Z

    In the mid 40s they started with the Shock-Resist device, and used the second generation Super-Shock-Resist still in the early 50s. Here a movement from 1952:



    For the U.S. market this caliber came still without shock device in 1955, some 10 years after the change in Europe:



    In the mid 50s they canged to the omnipresent Incabloc, disregarding the market. Here the same calibre from 1961:



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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Very interesting and thank you for the info, I didn't know that. As far as the caseback, I figured that those were initials, I was wondering more about the numbers. Mostly the No 216.
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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addictedtowatches View Post
    Very interesting and thank you for the info, I didn't know that. As far as the caseback, I figured that those were initials, I was wondering more about the numbers. Mostly the No 216.
    Thats probably just a case number
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    Re: Vintage Mulco and maybe military?

    Alright then, thanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it. I'm going to have to post another thread because I also got an Oris and Eloga from the forties.
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