All I have right now are the sellers pics. I didn't think I could really lose on this seiko. I'm pretty sure, with the 6619 movement, that this is possibly a 1964?? Suposedly there are actually 18 jewels used and 3 hidden jewels in these. From what I read, 18 jewels just seemed to be an odd number compared to most watches so they added 3 hidden jewels to round it up to a common 21 jewels. It actually reads Diashock 21 jewels. ?? Do any of you have any other ideas? I paid a whopping $13.99 total.