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    Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

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    I inherited few pocket watches from my uncle. One of the most interesting looking one's is this one picture on tsar Nikolai II on it.
    I tried to find information about it on google but could not found anything. Is there anyone who would know something about it?
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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    I'm sure some will know the name here but if you could flip the inside case also and get a good movement picture it would help them more.
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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    Yes and photos of the hallmarks on the inside caseback. Looks very interesting!

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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    There seems to be the distinctive 84 hallmark in a shield - like in my Russian halmarked case from 1903.
    A very nice watch - I like the old Imperial Russian watches. I have some (most in bad condition, though) and I will get more :)
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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    From what I see:
    - Front case cover says "ЗА ОТЛИЧНОЕ ВООРУЖЕНIЕ" - "FOR EXCELLENT ARMAMENT"
    - Dial depicts Czar Nikolas II (last monarch of Russian Empire)
    - Inner cover :
    Л.М.ЛИЛЬПОПЪ - L.M.L'ILPOP (minor Russian watch manufacturer)
    поставщик - supplier
    Двора Его Величества - Of His Majesty Court
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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    Yes - and it also says "Tissot". Who is the ultimate manufacturer of your watch then. Which Tissot is was may become evident when one can see the movement (the most obvious candidate being Ch.F. Tissot of Le Locle, founded 1853 and still going strong).

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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    84 zolotniki is the official Russian silver mark for 875/1000 silver.

    Zolotniki is the old Russian weigh measure, 96 to a troy pound = (1000 x 84) : 96 = 875
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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    I will reserve comment on this one for now....

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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    Thank you for all your comments so far.
    I opened back case and here are photos of movement and back cover.

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    Re: Vintage tsar Nikolai II pocket watch

    Superb images! Movement Swiss, fairly standard, key wind and –set, anchor escapement with counter weight, bi-metallic compensation balance, several bearing-jewels, hair spring looks good, nothing spectacular, but also nothing from the very low end. Seems to be in good condition considering the age. Confirms also the year of around 1902. Somewhat regulated towards 'faster', needs service, which should be no problem and no big issue with this watch (unless there would be some major damage).

    If you should not have the key (keys) for this watch, that's also no problem. Newly produced ones are floating around cheap and in oodles at eBay and elsewhere, single or in sets. If you want one from the time, you have to look around, but they can be expensive and you have to find the exact size.

    The case seems to be in a condition that it can be nicely cleaned. If you want to carry it with you and keep it running, you must have a service first. It has no shock-protection (not available and used at the time, although already invented in 1790), so it's more vulnerable to damage of the balance staff. It you want to leave it in the collection, don't do anything. It doesn't get worse in a dry and save environment.

    I am sure, that someone will pop in soon and identify the thing (movement).
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