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    Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

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    The movement and case seem genuine to me. But first of all it is a truly horrible redial.
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    Re: Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

    In this case-the dial puts me of completely. That said I can't tell if it is a franken in any other ways.
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    Re: Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

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    The movement and case seem genuine to me. But first of all it is a truly horrible redial.
    Fully agree. The seller even dare to ask for $2300? I think seller shall just sell the movement and casing as spares. The dial can be dump away.
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    As spares- not necessarily. Replating the hands and finding a genuine dial in a good condition (bloody hard to find) should do the trick. The price did make me laugh for a while- this watch is worth no more than the value of gold in it...
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    Another one with a bad re-dial. The strangest thing for me is how "pink" the gold is - very different to other models I've seen. Even the colour of the inner and outer case back is different. I messaged the seller and he is insistent that it is a genuine item.
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    Re: Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

    A redial it is. About the case, I wouldn't dismiss it straight away. On the outside, where in the pictures you can see the sides of the case and part of caseback, the shade of gold is the same. The inside of the caseback might seem different due to the finish combined with lighting and the angle. On the outside, the surface under the lugs seems to be brushed rather than mirror-polished like the caseback.
    I would simply call it a redial at an outrageous price.
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    Re: Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

    Maybe I should stop looking for ghosts where there are none :)
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    You've established that it's not a good one, but really, to pile in… it's a solid gold case with a cheap unsigned GP crown. A truly dreadful redial. Hands that don't match and anyway look like the cheapest steel punched rubbish. Truly, truly awful. I'm shocked. I'm guessing – being nice about it – that they guy found himself with a turkey on his hands and is trying to pass it off on some newbie. But I suggest that WUS is the wrong place to try; of course, on eBay , he'd be lucky to get a quarter of the asking price. I just can't believe it. Ghosts? A stake through the heart would be the thing you need.
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    Re: Is this vintage Zenith a fake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Habitant View Post
    You've established that it's not a good one, but really, to pile in… it's a solid gold case with a cheap unsigned GP crown. A truly dreadful redial. Hands that don't match and anyway look like the cheapest steel punched rubbish. Truly, truly awful. I'm shocked. I'm guessing – being nice about it – that they guy found himself with a turkey on his hands and is trying to pass it off on some newbie. But I suggest that WUS is the wrong place to try; of course, on eBay , he'd be lucky to get a quarter of the asking price. I just can't believe it. Ghosts? A stake through the heart would be the thing you need.
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    I just looked - its WORSE!!
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