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    Voce vintage watch identification

    Hi guys.Anyone knows something about this watch? Year, movement, and does it appears original? Thanks.
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    Re: Voce vintage watch identification

    VOCE (model name) = Adolf Alleman Fils SA, Moutier and Welschenrohr, Switzerland, active from 1920 to around 1966 (various members of the famous watchmaker family Allemann). They had also used oodles of other model names like Alos, Dixton, Alosa, Atr, Balla, Baronet, Bernadotte, Colaba, Culaba, Kitta, La Raspa, Twist-Watch (registered 1962 shortly after Chubby Checker came out with his famous song - no, that's not a joke!) ............ etc. etc. etc. almost through the complete alphabet. For most names, you usually find a registration date, but not for the Voce-model. It was however one of the earlier ones.

    The axe came down for the company with the quartz crisis, difficult to survice if you have more mechanical watch models than grains of sand at the beaches in California...

    Looks original, presumably 1940s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Border-Reiver View Post
    VOCE (model name) = Adolf Alleman Fils SA, Moutier and Welschenrohr, Switzerland, active from 1920 to around 1966 (various members of the famous watchmaker family Allemann). They had also used oodles of other model names like Alos, Dixton, Alosa, Atr, Balla, Baronet, Bernadotte, Colaba, Culaba, Kitta, La Raspa, Twist-Watch (registered 1962 shortly after Chubby Checker came out with his famous song - no, that's not a joke!) ............ etc. etc. etc. almost through the complete alphabet. For most names, you usually find a registration date, but not for the Voce-model. It was however one of the earlier ones.

    The axe came down for the company with the quartz crisis, difficult to survice if you have more mechanical watch models than grains of sand at the beaches in California...

    Looks original, presumably 1940s.
    Thanks..I couldn't find any infos about this company..Do you know what kind of movement it is? I believe could be some model of baumgartner?

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    Re: Voce vintage watch identification

    Baumgartner? Not this one. Roseba Cal. 8:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Roseba 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Baumgartner? Not this one. Roseba Cal. 8:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Roseba 8

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    But this movement ( roseba) is 1 jewel and this one is 15...Am I wrong?

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    Re: Voce vintage watch identification

    Then yours is either an upgraded version of the Roseba 8 or it's a Roseba Cal. "Whatevernumber" which is their own designation for the Roseba 8 with a different jewel count. It was quite common to offer movements in different versions with different jewel counts in those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Then yours is either an upgraded version of the Roseba 8 or it's a Roseba Cal. "Whatevernumber" which is their own designation for the Roseba 8 with a different jewel count. It was quite common to offer movements in different versions with different jewel counts in those days.

    Hartmut Richter
    Hi, thanks for your reply..I just checked that roseba 8 movement... it's really looke like very similar,but isn't that movement from 1980? And this watch should be from 1940?

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    Re: Voce vintage watch identification

    1950’s. Likely a redial at some point - but sometimes hard to be sure with entry level watches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirius View Post
    1950’s. Likely a redial at some point ....
    If that is so it's quite a good one. The white lettering is clear, straight and properly centered. The luminous (radium? if made prior to late 1960's) hour marker precise and even.

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    Re: Voce vintage watch identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Navman View Post
    If that is so it's quite a good one. The white lettering is clear, straight and properly centered. The luminous (radium? if made prior to late 1960's) hour marker precise and even.
    Have you checked the Six? White lettering like this on a black dial is common with a redial


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