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    Waltham 16s 1908 keyless works help please

    Hi, hoping someone can help. I bought this Waltham pocket watch non working as a bit of a project. Stripped it down diligently taking photos of every step. Found out it was all gunked up with grime and grease so figured it was needing a good clean as a start and I would do this and reassemble hoping that it would work. Put it aside for a while and have now come back to it......unfortunately I have deleted all the photos off my phone...dont know when or how but they have gone. I have figured out a lot of it, but am pretty stuck with the keyless works. Any help, or guidance or direction to a schematic would be really appreciated. I just can't seem to find anything anywhere that has this exact configuration. It's really just the washer, spring and two lever part that I am stumped with I think. I've included photos of what i have...thanks in advance.

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    I'll take more ( better ) , photos if needed......like I say, many thanks to anyone who can help.

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    Re: Waltham 16s 1908 keyless works help please

    Thank you Enrico....really appreciated.

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    Re: Waltham 16s 1908 keyless works help please

    Jimhammie...Hello!

    I rather agree: these assemblies ARE tough to figure out! I recall the first time I encountered one: it took some time to see what-went-where...

    At the same time, I will suggest that trying to see how pieces go together is Very Good Mental Exercise...if you stay with watch work, you will encounter more than a few mechanisms that defy ready comprehension, & you will wonder what the silly-people who 'designed' the thing, were thinking...but ( of course!), they were thinking, & it's your job to see it through, and get the darn thing back together & working.

    It's sometimes Not Fun at the time, but really IS fun afterwards!

    Oh: be especially careful if you work on American 18s full-plate watches: pallet arbors are really ( really!) easy to break during disassembly!

    Have fun! Michael.

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    Re: Waltham 16s 1908 keyless works help please

    This is why I take pictures at every single step of disassembling anything more complex than a simple manual wind, time-only watch, or any new version of keyless works. From the time they started appearing on American pocket watches until about the 1940s, it seems like every company reinvented the wheel with some new complexity.

    My Greatgrandfather's 12s Waltham had the same basic set up as this one. If I hadn't taken pictures before taking it apart, it would still be in pieces...
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