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    Waltham pocket watch

    Looking at this pocket watch: Waltham Very RARE Working Vintage Mens 17JEWEL Open Face Pocket Watch | eBay

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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    Not rather rare. More rather common. 17 jewel is at least fully jeweled. If you are looking for a carry watch that would work. The case is also chrome/base metal. More than likely a replacement case. This kind of chromed case is sometimes a cheap replacement.

    They made over 85,000 of this particular grade.
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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    Thank you thoth.

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    Not rare at all, as thoth has said. Ignore the seller's gumpf - typical ignorant seller fluff - and assess the watch on its merits. A clueless seller doesn't change the qualities of the merchandise. Whilst a "standard" Waltham 17 jewel 16 sizer it's still a very nice quality movement, although this example has some corrosion on the winding wheels. It has the gold star regulator which is always a nice touch. The dial has some marks, a hairline crack or two, and that yellow aging which may or may not clean off. Hands look OK. The case is base metal and looks to be in reasonable condition. The crystal would likely need replacement. So, it's not the cleanest example but for the base bid of $50 it would be decent enough. As it's running the chances of needing parts is lowered, although you never know the actual condition until it's in your (or your watchmaker's) hands. It's going to need a service, as will the vast majority of such watches off eBay, and so that expense must be factored in.

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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    Thanks Gumby992. I usually ignore the 'rare', and I always plan on having the watch serviced. I liked the look and price. Does it look like the original case?

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    Hard to say with these cases, but it >looks< like the only screw marks on the case are consistent with this movement. It's a grade 630 model 1899 from around 1907, which is about the best era for Waltham's.
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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    Quote Originally Posted by rkamarowski View Post
    Thanks Gumby992. I usually ignore the 'rare', and I always plan on having the watch serviced. I liked the look and price. Does it look like the original case?
    I don't know, but wouldn't be too fussed about it. Many of the movements have been recased over time. If you were paying a premium price for a watch the originality of the case may be more of a factor. It looks suitable enough for the watch. These Defiance type cases are fine. I'm not a fan of the big chunky crowns aesthetically but they do give good purchase for winding.
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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    This thread can give a bit more insight into the case.

    http://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?1...w-old-are-they

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    Thanks for the link. Another site to join :)

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    Re: Waltham pocket watch

    Oops, I meant to say it looked like a Spartan case with the chunky crown, not so much a Defiance. It doesn't make much difference, though, as the Spartans were apparently introduced in the late 1920s or so, still a fair bit later than the production date of this movement.
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