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    hi would be very grateful if one of you knowledgable guys can help me find out about this watch for a good friend -it appears to have a very clean well unmarked really enamelled type face --a masonic type design on the back -its obviously missing a winder key and the markings on the innerrear casse are a lion at 12 ocloc -an anchor at 12-45 and a lower case 'b' at 12-15also at 12-30 the letters AB with numbers 25 beneath-not equipped to open it nor do i want to damage -would be real help for any imput as regards type-age -maybe even valueName:  waltham3.jpg
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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    just to add my friend tells me the waltham was restored well -which accounts for the lovely clean dial i suppose -the key is still present and the watch is working !

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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    Looks like a typical Waltham made in the 1880s-1890s for the English export market. "AB" was Alfred Bedford, the English agent for Waltham-most export Walthams from this era are in AB cases(later ones were in Dennison cases). The gold hands and dial are also quite consistent with this.

    The case hallmark looks like a 1901 Birmingham mark to me. This would be fairly late for this sort of watch, but probably not too unusual.

    The movement is most likely a 7 jewel gilt 1877 or 1883 model-we can determine this easily if you open the inner dust cover and take a picture of it.
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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    thanks ben do i need a special tool to open this -thankyou for your response by the way

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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    sorry ben -would this be a silver case -forgive my ignorance

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    Not a problem :)

    You don't need any special tools-just a fingernail and possibly a dull knife if it's stubborn.

    Yes, this is an English-made sterling silver case. This is indicated by the lion marking at the top(in combination with the Birmingham assay office anchor, date letter, and maker's mark).
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    Learn something new every day here, thanks! Just wish I could remember half of it.

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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    Very nice watch. I was just given two that belonged to my Grandfather (posted in a thread today). One of them has a very similar crest as the one on yours, but I have no idea what it is. Were you able to find anything more about it?
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    Re: WALTHAM pocket watch -any expert pleeeeeese help!

    im sorry no more than you see - maybe they are waltham design to encourage a monogram ! thankyou for taking the trouble my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by shameless View Post
    im sorry no more than you see - maybe they are waltham design to encourage a monogram ! thankyou for taking the trouble my friend
    Mine is actually on a Hampden, so it's not limited to Waltham. I agree it's probably for initials, however it's odd that neither of ours have initials. Would be interested in seeing an example with initials.

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