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    Waltham trench style watch

    I kind of unexpectedly just bought this watch. (Threw out an offer that was accepted)

    I am still learning but thanks to you guys, i am picking up loads of knowledge.

    now, i spotted this watch, and i believe it may be a recased movement? The serial number tells me its only a 7j and was originaly in a nickel case? Now a 9ct gold case

    Anyway, i was instantly drawn to it, so made a lowish, but not a lowball offer, and it was accepted.

    Its also on the small side, but all up i am happy with it, although i feel i may have still paid more than it actually worth.

    Appreciate all opinions, good or Bad, and any info.

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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Interesting strap arrangement.
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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Hi,

    there is no casing information associated with the serial numbers, perhaps you mistook the nickel plating on the movement for casing info.

    Remember at this time the US watch manufactures did not (usually) case their own movements, this was mostly done by jobbers and jewellers, often, to a customer's selection. The period adverts you see are adverts from Jobbers and Jewellers who carried their own house combinations of movement, dial, hands and cases.

    Anyway, can you provide a better photo of a the case hallmarks and let us know the movement serial. This is the only way we can form an likely opinion as to if the movement has been re-cased. The case is quite an early one, but the movement may be too early - I can't really read the serial from the photo though.

    On the positive side, I only see one set of screw marks on the case, so certainly this movement was likely the only movement fitted in this case.

    You need to get a new strap, the nylon inner band is not right and feels bad man .
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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Possibly this from what I could see of serial number..

    https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/sear...ltham/23143981

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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Thanks guys,
    Yes i did mistake the nickel movement for the case trim.
    And i agree with changing up the strap.

    I am yet to take delivery of the watch, i will update with more pics when i have it in hand.

    I think the serial number starts with 22, and places the movement to 1919, same result that Anzac has provided, cheers mate.

    I might shoot of an email to the seller and request the exact number and a better pic of the hallmarks on the case.

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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    That is a Dennison swivel lug "Lentille" case. (proper name)

    It was available in 18k, 15k, 9k and sterling silver.

    This case style has been around since at least 1915, probably made into the mid 1920's.

    I've seen them in sizes 3/0s and 6/0s, never seen one in the larger size 0s though.

    I date the movement to 1920, size 6/0s.
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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Quote Originally Posted by Literustyfan View Post
    That is a Dennison swivel lug "Lentille" case. (proper name)

    It was available in 18k, 15k, 9k and sterling silver.

    This case style has been around since at least 1915, probably made into the mid 1920's.

    I've seen them in sizes 3/0s and 6/0s, never seen one in the larger size 0s though.

    I date the movement to 1920, size 6/0s.
    That fits, as it looks like the Hallmark is Birmingham 1922. Obviously clearer photos would help.

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    Re: Waltham trench style watch

    Thanks for the replies.
    Im liking the dial, will make a nice change from the white trench dials i have. Would you say its a metal dial?
    And do the numerals look to be (cant think of the correct word) indented/incesed in the dial opposed to on top?

    To my relative novice eye, it looks a quality Waltham for the time, even considering the basic movement. Really looking forward to the arrival
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