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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by busmatt View Post
    Cool at least I now know what I have, A mid size 50's watch with a cool movement.

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    agreed, as I thought
    The watch I believe is re-lumed.
    That heavy reluming is very typical of 40 and 50s where they piled it on.
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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    A very cool watch Matt, keep looking for more!
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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

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    A very cool watch Matt, keep looking for more!
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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by bobbee View Post
    That is the AS 1187, a very handsome train bridge on there!
    Look here: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1187

    Whatever it is, it is not anything from this movement family.

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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat1960 View Post
    Look here: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1187

    Whatever it is, it is not anything from this movement family.

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    My mistake, I did actually post the correct movement, but edited it during a brain fart episode.
    Here is the correct 1287!
    bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1287

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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Nope.

    Try this one: bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: FHF 25



    I don't know when it became available but the FHF 29 (a rectangular one) debuted 1933. If FHF numbered their ébauches serially, then the '25' has to be at least that old.

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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Nice one, good find!
    Glad to be corrected, better now than never!
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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    By the way - the shock proofing device looks indeed like the Super Shock Resist system. For readers capable of reading German: here is a Kurth Kal. 25 using this very system for shock protection. This movement was made between 1948 and 1953, so at that time the Super Shock Resist must have been established in the market place already.

    All said, I uphold my judgement: a late 1930s'/early 1940s' watch, 'updated' later with lume. I can imagine that the first such upgrade took place during the war in order to counter the blackouts, and maybe a later watchmaker 'restored' the radium on the dial (with lume.)

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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomcat1960 View Post
    By the way - the shock proofing device looks indeed like the Super Shock Resist system. For readers capable of reading German: here is a Kurth Kal. 25 using this very system for shock protection. This movement was made between 1948 and 1953, so at that time the Super Shock Resist must have been established in the market place already.

    All said, I uphold my judgement: a late 1930s'/early 1940s' watch, 'updated' later with lume. I can imagine that the first such upgrade took place during the war in order to counter the blackouts, and maybe a later watchmaker 'restored' the radium on the dial (with lume.)

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    Hi.
    Not sure I understand these conflicting points:
    he shock proofing device looks indeed like the Super Shock Resist system. For readers capable of reading German: here is a Kurth Kal. 25 using this very system for shock protection. This movement was made between 1948 and 1953
    i.e production between 1948-1953

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    I uphold my judgement: a late 1930s'/early 1940s' watch
    How can a movement from 30s --> early 40s have a shock protection from 1948 (start)?

    sorry if I misunderstood your points
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    Re: Watches are like buses............./Update Movement Pic

    Quote Originally Posted by HOROLOGIST007 View Post
    How can a movement from 30s --> early 40s have a shock protection from 1948 (start)?

    sorry if I misunderstood your points
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    The movement he linked to happens to be a movement that was in production from 1948 to 1953; he only mentioned it because it shows that Super ShockResist was (potentially) being used by manufacturers as early as 1948.

    The challenge is, when was Super ShockResist first put on the market? 1951 is the earliest date I can find for a watch using it.
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