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    Confused What is it?

    I am new to this. I got this and other watches when my father-in-law died.

    On the front: "STRATFORD" and at the botton "SWITZERLAND"
    On the movements: "STRATFORD" "Six 6 Jewels" "Langendorf" "Two 2 Adjustments" no serial numbers.
    On the case: Stamped "Illinois Watch Case Co" "Spartan" "0512078" Etched "X534WY" "8015CW" "8-96"

    Both the front and the back screw off.

    Thanks for your time,
    Jon Nailor
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    Re: What is it?

    Hi and welcome.

    I know nothing about pocket watches, but for now a bit about the people who made your movement:

    Stratford was one of many brand names of the Uhrenfabrik Langendorf SA, located in Langendorf, Switzerland. The Kottmann family set up industrial production there in 1842 and towards the end of the 1880s it was probably the largest watch/clock factory in the world.

    At the beginning of the 20th century they ventured into America and Langendorf were imported by the American Swiss Watch Co.

    The main brands they used were Laco and Lanco.

    In 1971 the company was merged into the Omega-Tissot Group, and production ended in 1973.


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    I own a couple of "Langendorf" deco pocket watches.Nice watches.

    I would say that the one on the photo is also deco watch,shame it's just 6.jewells movement.
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    Re: What is it?

    Thanks for the info. I will be sending in more pics of other watches once I have looked them over and hopefully get them running.

    BTW... This pocketwatch was not running, but I was able to repair it with a couple of turns of a screwdriver. It seems to hold time well, despite the 6 jewels movement.

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    Re: What is it?

    I'm not really an expert on Lagendorf but I think what you have there is a cylinder escapement watch from around 1920.
    You should think about getting it cleaned and serviced if you intend to run it for very long. Antiques should not be run without service as it destroys the wheel pivots.

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    Re: What is it?

    Just to show you how new I am at this....

    How much does it cost to clean and service watches like this?

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    Re: What is it?

    My watchmaker won't charge less than $125 US for pocket watches...
    "Forever is composed of nows." - Emily Dickinson

    "The watch has to be surrounded by a history.
    You need more than just a great design. You need to create an atmosphere around the product.
    Who is the company behind it? Why are they using this material?
    People need to be able to identify the watch with themselves. It's based on emotion." - Ralph Furter

    ...that's just my opinion and I've been wrong before and will be again and might be now!

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    Re: What is it?

    The watch has a lever escapement - the last wheel (closest to the balance) is the fourth in line from the mainspring and doesn't reach the balance staff. And I know of no five wheel cylindre escapement movement.....

    It looks like a US case with a Swiss movement. Considering the low jewel count, I would hazard a guess that this is a decent movement made in low jewel count quality for export to the US (to save on import duties) where it was put into an American case. It is quite possible that "Stratford" was a sub-brand specifically for the US market.

    Just an aside: the best known brand of Langendorf was indeed Lanco - but Laco is quite different. Laco was Lacher & Co. from Pforzheim, Germany. They used to use mainly Germany movements (PUW, etc.). The brand has been revived and now uses Swiss ETA movements.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: What is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hartmut Richter View Post
    Just an aside: the best known brand of Langendorf was indeed Lanco - but Laco is quite different. Laco was Lacher & Co. from Pforzheim, Germany.
    My mistake. But I have seen it listed as a Langendorf brand - e.g.:

    http://www.specialistauctions.com/va...&topic_id=1238

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    http://www.clockswatches.com/showindex.php?em=L
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    Re: What is it?

    Hartmut is the expert on cylinder escapements so I'll defer to him. However I have never seen a 6 jewel inline lever movement.
    Usually the minimum is 7 for an American inline Swiss lever.

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