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    What about NOS?

    I've seen affordable NOS watches listed for 30 € and 35 € on Ebay Switzerland, shipped from Germany.

    With Indian 'vintage' watches being thoroughly discredited (a local watch shop owner told me they sell cheapo Chinese movements in FAKE 'vintage' cases) this might be a way to get a mint watch.

    - Would I likely need to get such a watch cleaned & re-oiled?

    - What has been your experience with NOS watches?
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    Can't see the 4 photos I attached

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    Re: What about NOS?

    Yes.

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    Re: What about NOS?

    This all seems pretty sketchy to me and everything about these watches screams "run away". Why do you believe that they are truly NOS? Regardless of the age, are these watches of sufficient quality to purchase?
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    NOS, well, good luck on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbackdan View Post
    This all seems pretty sketchy to me and everything about these watches screams "run away". Why do you believe that they are truly NOS? Regardless of the age, are these watches of sufficient quality to purchase?
    Really? I was about to buy one each! This is scary - are you sure?

    Yes, they reproduce everything and fake Casio MT-9 (or whatever, the cheapest LCD quartzes) get 'copied', too.

    I've lost about $ 70 on 3 watches which a FB group told me were i. fakes from ii. a known seller of Indian fakes in the UK.

    An Indian shop owner told me later, they use cheapo movements from China to produce 'vintage watches'. Lookinmg at the photos of the movements, I believed it would be the real Mc Coy!

    This is a dreadful state of afairs when $ 4x watches get faked as 'NOS'

    Not sure what to say. I thought this was a wonderful opportunity for some fellow collector...

    Am bathing in shame and remorse!

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    Re: What about NOS?

    A plastic ring around the movement? Was that ever done back in the days of these watches?
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    bTW, I made a stink andEbay deleted the 3 watches from my purchase history. Couldn't find the original listings any more :o What's up with that?!?

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    Re: What about NOS?

    I have NEVER had problems buying NOS watches from Europe.

    Common sense alone would tell you they still have many many unsold watches in storage.
    And, with a little buffing and adjustment, many are as good as new, if you can ignore the fact that some of the older movements may not be as good as what we take for granted today..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kru Chris View Post
    I've seen affordable NOS watches listed for 30 € and 35 € on Ebay Switzerland, shipped from Germany.

    With Indian 'vintage' watches being thoroughly discredited (a local watch shop owner told me they sell cheapo Chinese movements in FAKE 'vintage' cases) this might be a way to get a mint watch.

    - Would I likely need to get such a watch cleaned & re-oiled?

    - What has been your experience with NOS watches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kru Chris View Post
    With Indian 'vintage' watches being thoroughly discredited (a local watch shop owner told me they sell cheapo Chinese movements in FAKE 'vintage' cases)...
    Don't take that literally; your watchmaker was just attempting to convey his contempt for these watches. Every example of Indian 'Swiss' fake that I have seen has consisted of a cheap vintage case with restamped back containing a vintage cheap Swiss movement, matched to a repainted dial. That includes the examples that you have posted below. Those are definitely not Chinese movements, and the cases look much like many watches that were sold in India in decades past.

    And don't believe "NOS" always means "New Old Stock". Sellers often use the description to simply mean "very good condition". Those Elida watches look pretty good, from the outside anyway. But if they really are New Old Stock (i.e. sitting idle for 40 years) then they will certainly need to be serviced before use.

    Possibly the reason for the low price is that they were cheap when new. They definitely have the appearance of 1970s Swiss cheapies, probably containing a 1-jewel movement. The big hints are the "21" inscription (not "21 jewels" or anything meaningful, just "21") and the "DAY" inscription in the window that gives the spurious appearance of a day/date. A genuine piece of all-Swiss horological history, but not necessarily a quality watch.
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