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    What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    I can't say I am into pocket-watches but I can recognize good makers and quality finish. While browsing in bay I saw this interesting movement and watched until auction end.Looks like a two train movement but still its high selling price surprised me:

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    It was being sold for spares and fetched up to 712 USD ! Anybody recognizes the maker? What is so special about it ?
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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    Remontoire?
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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    Thanks Adam, really the mechanism around the spring looks like remontoir - a winding mechanism wound by the mainspring?
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    it could be a Louis Audemars ,the click-spring ratchet gear have also been used by Louis Audemars but the hairspring stud is very different from Audemars style.
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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    Quote Originally Posted by Emre View Post
    Thanks Adam, really the mechanism around the spring looks like remontoir - a winding mechanism wound by the mainspring?
    Just my humble thoughts, in this area I truly am no specialist.
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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    I totally love the click design; way over-engineered, but well done...and I'm a sucker for symmetry.
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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    We all learn constantly, that's the beauty of this hobby :)

    Thanks Enrico for your input. I guess if it's Louis Audemars it's the later Audemars, not from first half of 19th cent. Audemars.

    It looks late 19th century timepiece to my untrained eyes?
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    I've no idea about the maker but those click - spring ratches are rare. The two trains must be for a second morte, jumping hour or stuff like this. The shiny and perfect finished lever looks like a moustache one . Complications, capstones and high end . Therefore it probbly has a well known maker and you can date it within the middle of the second half of the 19 Century.
    I can't assign it but I bid myself last weekend as much on a movement as as I'd bid once in my live on a complete watch. One of those rare and excellent fruits I never can affort as a complete watch. I loose there are at least two guys bid much more. Pocket watch collectors are crazy.

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    Re: What am I missing here? Interesting PW movement

    Thanks Silke, I think you are right about the function of the two train. I've seen it in watches with foudroyante and seconde sautante. Since there is no scale and no sub dial for foudroyante, along with the missing center seconds hand it may be well a seconde sautante/seconde morte.

    Pocket watches collectors have half millenium of manufacture choices, where we the poor wrist watch guys have a limited choice from 115 years or so :)

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    Yes Emre, but with a few exceptions the production rates of one and the same watch are much higher......I don't count "Limited editions" because of a special dial, crown or strap .
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