When a Gruen Curvex is not

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    When a Gruen Curvex is not

    The name Curvex was only legally used for the curved back wristwatches by Gruen starting in 1935 with first model 311 17J Precision. A fine quality seller advertised a nice long case early curved back one at a reasonable price as a Curvex. I have 3 short case Curvex and am looking for a long case version. I guess most sellers would describe this one as a Curvex. It has a curved back. But it has a good 15j not Precision thin flat movement 500 so it is not. I have read that all Gruen Curvex watches were originally dial marked only for the 17j Precision 311, 330, 440, 370. There was a 500c 15j that was a curved movement but not marked as Curvex. So I am still looking for a long case Curvex. I have a 1938 Hamilton that looks a lot like this 500 Gruen. Any other Curvex models? The plastic distorts the dial markings in both. The band is a good quality appropriate one. This is priced well under a real one. Hamilton ad derails their good rr image a little with this recommendation for a pilots watch like a Gruen Curvex with slightly curved back. New costs: $35. for long case, $200. for gold Curvex, $50. Ham. Both Gruens paid same price; Ham cost same as in 1938.
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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    I like the bit in the ad where it says that the prices range up to $1500. I wonder what a $1500 Hamilton looked like back then? 'Cause that would buy a nice watch even today!
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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    I believe that was their most elaborate platinum and diamond lady model.


    I am now interested in acquiring a proper Gruen Curvex long case with 311 or 330 movnt. I assume these would be in similar cases, except for 52mm Majestic, in 45 - 48+mm lug to lug end lengths. ?? Initial looking indicates scarcity.

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    Interesting ......I have a Gruen Cadet model, made in 1938, and it has the 330 movement, and is 21mm across, excluding the crown, and 40mm long....perhaps the smaller size overall is why it's called the Cadet.......but those proportions are almost 2:1, so it has the very long look to it ......I lucked out on this watch, it looks like someone wore it a couple of dozen times and then it sat in a drawer for something like 70 years or so .......it came in a large group of ordinary used quartz watches I got from ebay a couple of years ago.....oh and the band is Kriesler, .....and it is signed 4 times.....the crown was loose, but I managed not to lose it over those 2 years and got it serviced and the crown tightened just a couple of weeks ago.....Name:  WATCHES FEB. 3, 2011 066.JPG
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    Nice to see. Gruen did good quality work as shown here. Interesting how well the dial survived. Fortunately not silver but a fine one with gold numbers.
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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    I have a '41 Gruen Curvex. I also found an original ad to go with it. A great little watch.

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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    Lovely, but you should also post a picture of the side, in profile!
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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_H View Post
    Lovely, but you should also post a picture of the side, in profile!
    Here's one I sold about three years ago...







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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_H View Post
    Lovely, but you should also post a picture of the side, in profile!
    I had never thought of that.

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    Re: When a Gruen Curvex is not

    There are some less-than-honest types out there that will slap a Curvex dial on a non-Curvex watch. This is possible as each Curvex movement had a non-Curvex equivalent that was identical except for the curved cut on the bridges....
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