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    winegarten

    Hi all,

    So I am looking to buy a cheaper gold vintage watch about 200 pounds or less. I have extremely limited knowledge about vintage watches.

    I have found a cartier tank I love - but alas it was too expensive - 600 pounds.

    I have found a 9 carat gold Winegarten - London with a leather strap for 200 pounds. I like how it looks. It has a round face but then has hexagonal shaping to the front and the glass.

    When I look on the internet I can find hardly any information about this brand.

    Is this a good reliable make?

    Is this make very rare? Is that a good thing?

    Does this sound like a good purchase?

    What would be a good question to ask?

    Thank you so much for your help.

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    Re: winegarten

    Winegarten was a fairly upmarket Jeweller's in London. It was bought by Goldsmiths Group in 1994.

    So the watch you have looked at is a 'house brand'. That is, they have paid another company - probably Swiss - to produce the watch for them. It probably has a good but not exceptional movement.

    We don't attempt valuations in here, there are stickies explaining why. The 'value' of a vintage watch is subject to many factors including condition, service history, warranty and collector appeal. Rarity is not, of itself, something that makes a watch more valuable.

    This thread might help you: https://forums.watchuseek.com/f295/ti...ch-122415.html
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    Please don't PM me to ask for a valuation - I won't attempt one.

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    Re: winegarten

    https://www.duedil.com/company/01236...ellers-limited

    £200 seems very high for a basic probably 9kt gold watch.
    The actual movement will be worth next to nothing and the gold maxim £90.
    So you should be able to pick up a nice vintage closer to £135

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    Re: winegarten

    Thanks very much - that is really helpful. I also found the thread on tips on buying a vintage watch helpful.

    I will keep looking!

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    Re: winegarten

    Quote Originally Posted by headroyd View Post
    Thanks very much - that is really helpful. I also found the thread on tips on buying a vintage watch helpful.

    I will keep looking!
    Wise decision
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    "Owning a vintage watch is great, understanding where it sits in Horology is magnificent"
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