Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

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    Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

    Hello
    I am glad I found this forum. I am from Germany and have got a question to an old pocket watch that we have found recently. It is from our grandfather who passed away many decades ago and worked for German train companies. I never got to know him in person because he has long died before I was born. It seems to be swiss made but I am not sure. Still works perfectly with the only problem that the hour-hand is broken. Can one let this be repaired at the watch shop? What do you think is this watch coming from and when and where was it build? I didn`t find much about the brand on the web.

    1) FWR or FRW, 1, 09/8390, 22
    -> on Brand investigation I assume = "Wuilleumier" (Robert & Fils), Renan, Switzerland; brand registred on Feb 4th 1885

    Can you help me a bit further with this watch?

    Thanks for your time and help
    Martin

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    Re: Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

    Hi Martin,

    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the watch, it must be a very good thing to own.

    We would really need to see a photo of the mechanism inside to tell you much more. It is likely to be a Swiss watch I think. Any good watchmaker who deals in older watches should be able to replace the hour hand for you as it is of a standard type.


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    Re: Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

    The watch will have a low to mid grade cylindre escapement movement, probably Swiss, from ca. 1880-1900. It may well look something like this:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Favre Freres 18'''

    ...except that yours is key wound and set. If it looks more like this, it will be 25-50 years older:

    bidfun-db Archiv: Uhrwerke: Louis Golaz 10'''

    8 jewels is about mid grade for a cylindre escapement watch (the lowest is 4, the highest is 10; 12 is possible as a maximum but that would mean that the centre wheel would be jewelled and that was left unjewelled even in high grade watches of that time). Cylindre escapement watches are somewhat pedestrian, not very accurate but quite robust when they aren't broken. If they still tick reasonably well, servicing them is not that difficult (or so I have been told) but fixing them if they don't tick can be a real pain. If it is just a matter of having the hour hand replaced, the watch should be serviceable.

    Hartmut Richter

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    Re: Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

    Hi
    So this it is from the inaide. I have foznd no logos in thw inaide. Is it a Wuilleumier ?Is it really from 1850?
    Thanks a lot
    Martin

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    Re: Wuilleumier Robert Fils ?

    Yep - the bridge arrangement is more characteristic of the 1830-1870 era. If you can get the hallmarks on the inner side of the outer cover of the case back identified (presuming that it is made from silver - the inner lid is made from some other material), this would help you date it more accurately.

    Hartmut Richter

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