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    Question Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Can anyone offer any info on this automatic please?





    It's inside this rather mucky Bessa:



    Many thanks in anticipation
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Well its defeated me. Is that a piece of wire acting as a sprung movement holder?
    Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects."

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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Well its defeated me. Is that a piece of wire acting as a sprung movement holder?
    Ditto... and it certainly looks like that shaped wire is holding the movement in place!

    John... this is the second/third mucky watch you have posted.... It always worries me to see crumbs of dirt that have fallen onto/around the movement... is it not possible to clean off the main build up of crud, before you open the back?

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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Can't help you but from the shape of the balance cock and bagobloc case it is likely a French movement, but you probably already knew that. I think I saw this movement in a Helbros watch listed on [email protected] a few months ago.

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    Ah. I remember seeing it in a solar branded watch a while back too, here you go. https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/her...ng-481631.html

    Marrick, you have a bad memory
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Doh!
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Doh!
    LOL... at least it was not thread you started.... which I have fallen foul of!
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    For that, do I get to PM you about a valuation on a pocket watch that i think is 90 years old but is really from the 70s-80s and has a cheap case and movement in it.


    Funny how on the rotor is says DO NOT UNSCREW but you still see damage to the screw head. Can't really blame the person who did it though, the screw is just so big and right there in the middle that it screams "UNSCREW ME."
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparcster View Post
    Ditto... and it certainly looks like that shaped wire is holding the movement in place!

    John... this is the second/third mucky watch you have posted.... It always worries me to see crumbs of dirt that have fallen onto/around the movement... is it not possible to clean off the main build up of crud, before you open the back?

    Marc
    Marc I actually did all that was visible, all that crud was lodged between the ring of the Bagobloc and under the edges of the actual back itself,!
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrick View Post
    Well its defeated me. Is that a piece of wire acting as a sprung movement holder?
    I believe it's an upmarket champagne cork holder, rather than the cork itself
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    Re: Yet another Movement ID request- 21 Jewel Automatic, Incabloc

    Quote Originally Posted by ltri View Post
    Can't help you but from the shape of the balance cock and bagobloc case it is likely a French movement, but you probably already knew that. I think I saw this movement in a Helbros watch listed on [email protected] a few months ago.

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    Ah. I remember seeing it in a solar branded watch a while back too, here you go. https://forums.watchuseek.com/f11/her...ng-481631.html

    Marrick, you have a bad memory
    Thanks Itri, with what you found Marrick, Lorsa it should be, now to search for more Lorsa's!
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