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    Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    Hi watch lovers,

    I have the opportunity to acquire this watch (my first one), which I thinks looks cool.
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    It has a 34.m diameter but I am not sure about its authenticity, I'm particular the crown.
    Moreover, I cannot tell what the movement is (nothing written on it).

    What do you guys think?

    Thanks a lot for your help,

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    The dial looks to have been redone at some point, so don't go forking out too much for it. Girrard Perregaux was an entry level brand in the 1950s. It has an A. Schild 1130, a generic but nicely designed and quite robust calibre not unlike the Longines 30L, Zenith 135, or Omega 30. I can't even see the crown clearly in those photos but it's not unusual for old watches to have their crowns replaced eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeWizard View Post
    The dial looks to have been redone at some point, so don't go forking out too much for it. Girrard Perregaux was an entry level brand in the 1950s. It has an A. Schild 1130, a generic but nicely designed and quite robust calibre not unlike the Longines 30L, Zenith 135, or Omega 30. I can't even see the crown clearly in those photos but it's not unusual for old watches to have their crowns replaced eventually.
    I'd say it's quite a bit unlike a Zenith 135...

    http://ninanet.net/watches/others06/...s/mzenith.html

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    You should post this in the Vintage forum, there are some very serious experts on movements in there.

    I'm no expert but have been looking for a vintage Girard-Perregaux for a while and have looked at a lot of them online so have a certain idea. The one thing I would say though is I don't think I've seen such a plain looking movement in terms of script on a 1950's GP. Could it possibly be a bit older than you think?

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    And as I said I am no expert so it appears I am wrong. Here is a link to a page on this site with a very similar GP with 17 jewel movement that is similar to your 15 jewel one.

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/wat...-a-347816.html

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    Moved to vintage

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    The movement looks to be based on the AS1130 bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1130 (lower example).

    Dr Ranfft shows that G-P used these movements, somewhat modified, bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: Girard-Perregaux 27BF (AS 1130) - although that example is with the other common bridge layout. I don't know enough to say for sure - but it looks OK to me. Someone else may know more.
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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    Quote Originally Posted by omeglycine View Post
    I'd say it's quite a bit unlike a Zenith 135...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeWizard View Post
    Different in bridge design, but same in principle - they're all robust 13 ligne movements capable of great accuracy.
    I don't disagree with that statement, but the two movements were designed for different purposes (military vs chronometer competitions).

    Not to say the 1130 isn't capable of being a thoroughbred and the 135 isn't capable of being a workhorse, but something like Zenith's cal 126 seems to be more analogous (particularly in terms of production).

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    Re: Your opinion on a 1950's Girard Perregaux

    Hi ladies,

    why do you diskuss it? It's a fake.

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