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    Navitimer suggestions

    Hi,

    I'm new to the forum so sorry if this a repeat question.

    I've fallen for the navitimer in:
    1. 41mm
    2. black/blue dial
    3. white tri-complex reverse panda look

    I've decided this will by first luxury watch (in the future).

    Is there a complete catalogue on all the models and reference numbers?

    I would still be trying to keep on a budget so can anyone recommend me a reference that meets the above points whilst not being too expensive?

    The age of the watch seems to be the best compromise, how old would a navitimer have to be before you would expect a decent price reduction on the second hand market? and how old would be "too old"

    While i'm at it how often and how much would a service cost roughly?

    Thanks

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    A Navitimer has been on my "I want it, but don't really know why, and don't need it" list for a while. It may never happen but I've paid attention to them a bit.

    This is a pretty exhaustive list of references it just doesn't have the newest line:

    http://www.breitling-museum.com/Brei...Navitimer.html

    I'm not sure they make exactly what you laid out there, although that'd be about my ideal setup if they did.

    The 41mm isn't available in reverse panda, and it has the non-in house movement. The latter doesn't matter a great deal to me personally but it can be relevant. In practice it means the chrono dials run up the left side vs. being at the bottom.

    https://www.breitling.com/us-en/watc...A13324121B1P1/

    This is the closest I'm seeing to your list assuming reverse panda is a requirement. In house movement also.

    https://www.breitling.com/us-en/watc...AB0121211B1X1/

    I wore both at an AD the other day and the 43 is comfortable even on my 7" wrist; the 41 is a more appropriate size for me though. YMMV.

    For my SOH I think they suggested a 7 year service interval and it'd likely be the better part of a grand depending on what it needs. Some guys on here go longer between changes; I'm not planning on sending either of my watches in until they start showing signs that they need it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectQuattro View Post
    A Navitimer has been on my "I want it, but don't really know why, and don't need it" list for a while. It may never happen but I've paid attention to them a bit.

    This is a pretty exhaustive list of references it just doesn't have the newest line:

    http://www.breitling-museum.com/Brei...Navitimer.html

    I'm not sure they make exactly what you laid out there, although that'd be about my ideal setup if they did.

    The 41mm isn't available in reverse panda, and it has the non-in house movement. The latter doesn't matter a great deal to me personally but it can be relevant. In practice it means the chrono dials run up the left side vs. being at the bottom.

    https://www.breitling.com/us-en/watc...A13324121B1P1/

    This is the closest I'm seeing to your list assuming reverse panda is a requirement. In house movement also.

    https://www.breitling.com/us-en/watc...AB0121211B1X1/

    I wore both at an AD the other day and the 43 is comfortable even on my 7" wrist; the 41 is a more appropriate size for me though. YMMV.

    For my SOH I think they suggested a 7 year service interval and it'd likely be the better part of a grand depending on what it needs. Some guys on here go longer between changes; I'm not planning on sending either of my watches in until they start showing signs that they need it.


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    Thanks! That navitimer history link really helps.
    Sorry for the confusion i think i meant 43mm

    Appreciate the advice!

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    Navitimer suggestions

    I just realized I missed half your question. Chrono24 is a good source of pricing info and they allow a ton of refinements to narrow your search. Like with eBay though, you're buying the seller as much as the watch. I got my PO there (Honza's Watches was the seller) and it was a great experience but care is required.

    Navitimers do depreciate quite a bit quite quickly, like nearly all watches do. You can probably easily get x% off MSRP without even looking very hard by going used. That said I bought my Breitling new and still got more than x% off at an AD so there's that option too.

    As for age, if it's been maintained that's kind of irrelevant. Main advice: Buy the one you want and you can always get it serviced if needs be. Don't settle; but nice or buy twice applies to cars and watches in equal measure.

    My other advice is just do it. My first nice watch was my Breitling and it seemed like a huge expenditure (because it definitely was) but I've never regretted it. You won't either.



    ETA a shot of the PO on a rubber strap since that's how I actually wear it every day:



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    Re: Navitimer suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by ProjectQuattro View Post
    I just realized I missed half your question. Chrono24 is a good source of pricing info and they allow a ton of refinements to narrow your search. Like with eBay though, you're buying the seller as much as the watch. I got my PO there (Honza's Watches was the seller) and it was a great experience but care is required.

    Navitimers do depreciate quite a bit quite quickly, like nearly all watches do. You can probably easily get x% off MSRP without even looking very hard by going used. That said I bought my Breitling new and still got more than x% off at an AD so there's that option too.

    As for age, if it's been maintained that's kind of irrelevant. Main advice: Buy the one you want and you can always get it serviced if needs be. Don't settle; but nice or buy twice applies to cars and watches in equal measure.

    My other advice is just do it. My first nice watch was my Breitling and it seemed like a huge expenditure (because it definitely was) but I've never regretted it. You won't either.



    ETA a shot of the PO on a rubber strap since that's how I actually wear it every day:



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    Hi PQ,

    It was a poorly worded question but nevertheless exactly the answer I was looking for!

    Thanks heaps the advice and i'll keep it in mind while I narrow down my search!!

    Thanks again!

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    Re: Navitimer suggestions

    a13330, a22322, a23322 - these meet your criteria. Watchbase is a really good resource for this type of research. You should be able to get a really nice Navi is the listed references for about $3,000 if you're patient. Lots of times prices go up as they get older. Newer watches will take an pretty good hit and then stabilize. Expect a local watchmaker to charge about $350 for a service. GL, these are great watches.
    Breitling A13023.1, A21330, A30022, A13322, A23322, A17365, A17321
    Glashutte Original 13934204204, 11066070704
    Heuer Autavia 02
    IWC Pilot Chronograph 3706
    Jaeger Le Coulture Q2068570
    Omega 311.32.42.30.04.001, 311.30.42.30.01.002, 2909.50, 232.32.42.21.01.003, 2201.50, 2532.20, 2531.80, 166.0324, 212.30.41.20.03.003, 212.30.41.20.03.001, 2234.50, 2054.50, 2254.50, 3594.50, 3513.53, 3513.33, 3570.5 (97,01,05,07)
    311.30.42.30.01.005 (17), 311.32.42.30.01.001
    Rolex 216570, 16570 black, 16570 white, 16750, 116400, 114060
    Tudor 79830RB, M79350, 25500TN
    Wittnauer 4000, 7004a
    Zenith 03.2040.400, 03.2150.400, 02.0310.400, 02.0210.462, 03.2410.401, 02.0360.400, 01.0370.400, 02.0470.405

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    Re: Navitimer suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by loukikymu View Post
    a13330, a22322, a23322 - these meet your criteria. Watchbase is a really good resource for this type of research. You should be able to get a really nice Navi is the listed references for about $3,000 if you're patient. Lots of times prices go up as they get older. Newer watches will take an pretty good hit and then stabilize. Expect a local watchmaker to charge about $350 for a service. GL, these are great watches.
    Thanks for the advice and reference numbers! Much appreciated!!

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    Listen to all of the above mentioned information and do your homework to find the Navi that you want. Wait and get that watch and in the long run you will not have regrets.
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    I read the website a lot, and this Forum and final decided on this one.

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    Listen to all of the above mentioned information and do your homework to find the Navi that you want. Wait and get that watch and in the long run you will not have regrets.
    Frank.
    Beautiful watch, that is pretty much what i'm looking for. Thanks for the advice! I'll start doing my research. Thanks

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