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    Question Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    I have purchased watches and watch parts from overseas on several occassions and noticed that each time the seller has written on an invoice a desription of the contents and price that far below what I paid for it. I learned this was done to save costs on customs fees, which I have greatly appreciated. Today however was a diffent story when I went to the Post Office to pick up my new Riseman that was shipped from Tokyo. I was floored when I was told that I had to pay $31.53 in customs fees. Needless to say this purchase ended up not being a good deal. I noticed the invoice attached to the outside of the box listed "Casio Watch $235.00." I realize a seller is not obligated to be untruthful about the value of the item shipped, but is it an unwritten rule among watch traders/sellers that you list a lower price on the package to save the buyer customs fees?

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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    It's hit and miss, it's a bonus if sellers do but they put their business at risk if they do and some simply aren't prepared to lie.

    Also, if your watch went missing in the post you'd be up a certain creek if the declared value was recorded as much lower when you tried to make a claim.

    Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid. Always expect the worse then you never get caught out.

    Try and think of all the times you've saved over the years, that should make you feel better.

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    Hi X,

    Luckily the tax rates in the US are pretty low. Here in the Netherlands you would have paid around €45.- ($65 - $70) tax and duties.

    I always calculate in the duties I have to pay, because packages from the US and Japan are almost 100%. I sometimes ask to lover the price, but only if I know the seller well. The risk of loosing the package is then in my hands, because when a $250 watch is sent as a $40 plastic watch, the seller can't claim $250 id anything happens. On the other hand, in the enormous heap of items I bought outside Europe, only a DW-5600E, that was a gift, did not arrive...

    But things can be worse. I got about a half year ago a gift package from a company in Japan. It was great, but I didn't know about it. Just at one day a note fell in my letterbox, if I wanted to pay €40.- import tax and duties.... I was very happy with the gift, but I was quite surprised I had to pay €40.- for something I did not know was on the way...

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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    I agree with Hoochy, if an insurance claim is necessary, then you'd be annoyed if it had been under declared. With lower priced watches I suppose the risk is less of a worry but when they start getting expensive that's when you start sweating !
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    Actually, I'm impressed you got taxed. Usually, things come thru untaxed. I thought watches below a $400 value weren't charged duty. Have you researched online with the government sites to see if this is the case?

    But, like others said, the declared value is usually the max insurance you can get, so if they shipped insured, they'd have to claim the full value.

    Still, it's a bummer.
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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    Oh, and I guess you could just consider it the fee you pay to be the first to post pics of the U.S. release version .
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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    Isn't it illegal to lie about the value of the goods being posted, depending on the country? I know the US has very strict laws about mail fraud.

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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    My guess is that it would be. I hadn't put much thought into because it seemed to be the norm, until this latest shipment.

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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    that sucks X, i dont have allot of experience with shipping from overseas, ive only got 1 from Japan and 1 from England but neither time was i charged an additional duty on top of what i originally paid???
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    Re: Customs Fees/Selling Watches Etiquette

    On the positive side, the seller provided fast shipping and great communication. I'm shipping this one out to another WUS member in Norway who is going to love this watch. I'm keeping the other Riseman I purchased which is the U.S. version. This was a learning experience so in the future I will know to factor in possible customs fees when purchasing from overseas.

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