Well, no replies but think this was a decent deal although someone mentioned that there was a sale in the past via Amazon for $149? This seemed to be as good as it gets so I pulled the trigger on it. There may be an option to get it for $175 but will report that if I can verify. Have not seen the black Pro Trek bands currently F/S here as I would like to go with black than orange. If anyone has a good price like $20 or less for their used one, I'd be interested.