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    Importing from Singapore....the bad news

    is that, today, some 2 weeks after having received my G9000 which I'd ordered in Singapore, I received (via FedEx) the bill for total €30.02 import duty, VAT + documentation expense.
    In fact, I agree and acknowledge that it is right the above be levied and, hence, due by me.
    But it's always nice to get away with not paying it! ZZ

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    Good newsand bad

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    Wow... I didn't know the duties, taxes and even documentation expenses are that high, just how much were your purchases? Is there anyway of circumventing these extra costs? What if items were marked as "gifts"?
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    Re: Importing from Singapore....the bad news

    If I knew a "ready made" reply to your question, I would not have had to pay that duty!
    But, here's the situation. I bought 2 (one cream, one black) G-9000
    1) Singapore - US$120 FedEx included. Paid US$38 tax n duty.
    2) Hong Kong- US$63+shipping US$23. Received watch, so far no bill received for duty. I suspect I will escapt taxes here, because I received the package via Belgian state "Taxipost", who usually charge taxes/duties directly UPON (i.e. before!) DELIVERY of the goods.
    If I get a bill, I will let you know.

    All this stuff about marking it "gifts", or "commercial sample"... I don't know. The Customs & Excise people are not idiots... And it may be a bit too much to ask a commercial enterprise to invoice the goods at ...30% of their real value...as that is, ladies and gentlemen, TAX FRAUD, and I have no idea how the "authorities" in Singapore or Hong Kong operate...

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    Hi Pablo,

    Who did you order your mudmans from?

    Did they declare a lower value on the invoice? If so how much did they declare.

    I have helped members on the mudmans previously and all did not get taxed.

    I believe that if the value declared is too little, the authorities might get suspicious.

    Lastly the tax thing has nothing to do with the authorities from the sender's country. How much taxes to be paid are determined in your own country. Thus its always best to know the minimum price that the authorities will start taxing you. The post office or your local custom office can help you with this.

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    Goods must be declared correct value by the sender.

    In Japan and Australia, it is ILLEGAL not to write the correct value on the delivery or customs slip.

    Declared value is not always the insured value.

    The receiver is FULLY responsible for his or her country taxes.

    Received goods in Australia incur a tax charge if the item is over $1000.00 Australian dollars.

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    Re: Importing from Singapore....the bad news

    Well, so far, all my shipments are marked as "gifts" and as far as I can remember, I've always stated the exact price that it was sold for, except for Greece (I think) where the buyer requested that it be capped at US$100.

    Have yet to encounter any tax or duty issues from any of the buyers... and hopefully will not have to anytime going forth :-D
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    Re: Importing from Singapore....the bad news

    Quote Originally Posted by PabloElFlamenco
    is that, today, some 2 weeks after having received my G9000 which I'd ordered in Singapore, I received (via FedEx) the bill for total €30.02 import duty, VAT + documentation expense.
    In fact, I agree and acknowledge that it is right the above be levied and, hence, due by me.
    But it's always nice to get away with not paying it! ZZ
    Sorry my friend...


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    Hi Pablo,

    It looks like the $30,- customs fee is a bit standard. From my 5 mudmans, one got caught at the customs. It was the GW-9000 but the bill was also just over €30,-. It's indeed better if your parcels get through, but you can't do anything about it.

    How saver you ship items, the bigger the change it get caught. Track and trace packages are often opened by the customs. Not that strange, as this international shipment costs around $25 to over $40,- (depending shipping method, location, etc).

    On the other hand, good that your package itself wasn't delayed. Most caught packages I get that are caught arrive two days later than normal, but it can be longer too. A Fisherman got caught for over a month and three Mountainbike Jerseys took 64 days to get here (that's about a 60 day hold up!).

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    OK, let me get this right...

    The Singapore (Google "Superchrono") watch (paypalled $120) declared value $100 (which I guess must be declared about right for the "fob" value, which excludes "shipping and insurance charge"...which would then be $20). That's the one that got, correctly, taxed: small import duty, 21% Belgian VAT, and small formalities fee). Nothing unusual, very fast FedEx, and you pay (total then was about €128 or US$160ish, which is STEEP, for a G9000).

    The affordable Boris Hong Kong watch had NO sales invoice in the package. I paypalled $63 (no-paper watch) + $23 (shipping charges) total US$86 (or abt €68ish). No taxes on receipt of goods. Same watch
    Now that's what the name says: Boris affordable watches. Of course, let that be clear, there is no guarantee the customs won't nab you, and then you pay, I guess, about €30 on top, as Sjors stated (after all, he's got plenty experience).

    BTW (funny, BTW in Dutch means ... VAT! value added tax :oops: )
    I know perfectly well that import duty has nothing whatever to do with the sales end of the deal, but a merchant has to decide for himself -and that is to a large extent dependent upon HIS country/efficiency/laws- whether he will, yes or no, cheat on the declared value. It is fraud, there's no two ways about it. But, of course, some margin is usually condoned, especially because the selling country doesn't lose any revenue (on the contrary, they may sell more when prices remain cheap).

    On another level, why do you think the ocean freight charges from PRC (China) to Europe/America for containers are quite cheap?? Any why does it cost comparatively hideously expensive for that same container just to be loaded onto a truck in Antwerp/Rotterdam ... you name the European port?? China wants to sell. Europe wants to, well, take its cut! Commercially and, yes, ...governmentwise: VAT. And, ladies and gents, can you blame them? I don't, but I like icing on the cake, that's for sure.

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