Last edited by HenŽi; September 7th, 2018 at 10:40.
Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.
I see the M180 shares the same design flaw as my LIW-M700 chrono (somewhere in the middle of this thread — #85): the raised, “hovering” indexes, keep the minutes and seconds hand tips far from the tick marks scale.Originally Posted by Hen[emoji768
Oh well, not a deal-breaker, and still a keeper...
For the most part Lineage are SS with mineral crystal. There are a few exception like the LIW M610 which is both titanium and sapphire, and a couple models that are either titanium with mineral crystal, or SS with sapphire. Lineage are usually are a bit smaller than Oceanus, although in the mid/late 2000's some Oceanus were on the small side too. Fit/finish/feel is highly subjective and everyone has different opinions on that. I'd like to think Oceanus are a step up in those categories but I just don't have enough hands on with Lineage to judge. I've only had one older titanium lineage and it felt a little cheap and sold it on.
Being probably of the older guys here, so maybe with more conservative taste, I shy away from the big, multi-dial Oceanus. More objectively, my aging eyes cant decipher all their readings; when those are needed, I flip my iPhone open... So I stick to the gray three-hander S100, while the twilight blue-black Lineage M700 gives me a sportier, though borderline retro, alternative.
Both I find refined in a understated way I havent seen by most modern Seiko norCitizen.
I found this model on Amazon, having both titanium and sapphire:
As I mentioned there are titanium/sapphire Lineage out there. One other thing I didn't mention before is most Lineage are 50m water resistant, whereas most Oceanus are 100m (some 200). Lineage in general are on the small side. I think the The M170 previously shown has a 39.5mm. It may just be me but the hands always seem a little short and thin as well. I guess they are marketed as a slightly upscale Casio, no-nonsense, business attire watch. If you like the looks and size I say go for it.
Being that this is an Oceanus thread, I'll close out with a couple of of Oceanus versions of the Lineage M170:
I overlooked these in Casio Europe catalog, probably because more attracted by the black dial, black LCD versions.
But both M170-TD are that: T for titanium.
I see these are sold in Europe, which would make more sense to me Frenchman than buying from Japan. To other Europeans too, since warranty and service rules apply from any EC member country throughout EC.
The Oceanus, I had no choice, but I grabbed it at an auction of Yahoo Japan.
Here, eBay, M170TD, black, new from Germany: 225 + 10 P&H, says list price is 299.
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