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  1. #1
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    Alpina Startimer Pilot Watch and Frederique Constant - Alpina Trunk show @ AZ Fine Time

    Alpina is a company that dates back to 1883. Their beginning stages
    consisted of the purchasing of parts and the assembly of movements.
    18 years later, Alpina moved on to establish their brand and not only
    build, but also manufacture high-end movements. Alpina may be a brand
    you are not familiar with but the history is there, uninterrupted, for
    nearly 129 years. To this day, Alpina not only continues to assemble
    and modify ETA and Sellita based movements (keeping the price very
    competitive), but also manufacture in house calibers that are
    extremely high quality with out being too expensive.

    The brand today is probably most recognized for their Extreme
    Avalanche series
    , especially the Extreme Avalanche Regulator. While
    this piece was a much more modern design, Alpina has been producing
    beautiful regulators since the early 1900's. The pieces I am
    discussing today are a tribute to a vintage watch as well... The
    Alpina Startimer.

    In the 20's and 30's Alpina had manufactured military type watches for
    pilot's that possessed the shock resistance, anti-magnetism, and
    legibility that was necessary for the pilots. This year, Alpina
    introduced their new Startimer Classic as a tribute to the originals.

    AL-525SC4S6-1 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-2 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-3 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    The first model of Alpina Statimer Classic (AL-525SC4S6) is their ETA
    based AL-525 caliber, three hand with date. The design is vintage
    with a 44mm case giving it a more modern look. The dial is silver
    with large applied arabic numerals. The numerals give the dial great
    depth and most importantly, making it incredibly easy to read. The
    large crown is also a nice touch making it incredibly easy to unscrew
    and operate. This is definitely something I have taken for granted in
    the past. Once you have a beautiful 44mm watch with a tiny crown, I'm
    sure you will understand.

    AL-525SC4S6-4 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-5 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-6 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    I have a lot of experience with the AL-525 caliber. I've owned one
    for about 5 years in my Avalanche Extreme Automatic. The movement is
    gorgeous to look at, but also a workhorse. In the time I've owned
    mine, it is within a few sec a day without ever being serviced. This
    was far above my expectation, but not a surprise as Alpina tests all
    their pieces in 5 different positions and thoroughly inspects every
    piece before they leave the factory. Needless to say, I have been
    very happy with mine.

    AL-525SC4S6-7 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-8 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-9 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-525SC4S6-10 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    The Classic versions all come on leather straps with a very nice
    fold-over pull apart clasp and retail for $995 for either variation.

    AL-525SC4S6-11 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    This next piece is one of my favorites... The AL-860 Startimer Classic
    Telemeter Chronograph (AL-860SCP4S6)

    AL-860SCP4S6-1 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-2 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-3 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    Telemeters are used to measure distance utilizing sight and sound.
    For Alpina (during WWII) this function was used to measure the
    distance of bombs that were dropped. Basically it would work by
    starting the chronograph as you would see the bomb make contact, and
    then stop once the noise from the bomb has silenced. This function is
    also handy for measuring the distance of lightning, starting once you
    see the lightning bolt and stopping once the thunder has cleared. The
    distance can easily be read on the dial, indicating the distance in
    kilometers wherever the chrono second hand has stopped.

    AL-860SCP4S6-4 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-5 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-6 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-7 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    While this function doesn't have much use to most people, it is still
    a very interesting feature that gives the dial a lot of life and
    character. The raised numerals are also very nice on this piece, even
    though there are fewer of them in comparison to the other models in
    the collection.

    AL-860SCP4S6-8 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCP4S6-9 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    Also equipped with the AL-860 movement is their Startimer Classic
    Chronograph (AL-860SCR4S6)
    . This variation is without the Telemeter
    function, but using the same exact movement. There is an obvious
    difference in that the strap is brown and the applied numerals are
    rose gold, as opposed to the steel.

    AL-860SCR4S6-1 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-2 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-3 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    This variation is great for someone who likes rose gold, but wants to
    wear something more neutral. While rose gold is very beautiful, it
    doesn't always go with everything. Using the stainless steel case
    makes this piece more accessible to everyday wear. This has certainly
    been one of our most requested items since its debut in Basel. They
    have just started to deliver to the US with both rose gold and
    stainless steel numerals.

    AL-860SCR4S6-4 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-5 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    The AL-860 movement is a Sellita SW500 base modified and decorated in
    Alpina's Geneva factory. The Sellita SW500 is the answer to the
    infamous Valjoux 7750 chronograph, that everyone knows and loves. The
    nice thing about Sellita is that they are not a part of Swatch Group
    (who has been threatening for years to take away ETA movements from
    non-Swatch companies) and also a lesser price point with equal
    quality. This keeps the price of this chrono very reasonable at
    $2,450 for any of the 3 variations.

    AL-860SCR4S6-6 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-7 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-8 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-860SCR4S6-9 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    The 4th and final installment is the Alpina Startimer Pilot Limited
    Edition in 18kt rose gold with the in-house manufacture AL-710
    movement. To be clear, the Startimer Pilot series consist of 4
    watches using all of the above mentioned movements and 2 variations of
    in-house calibers (the other being a Regulator) in 5 styles. All
    other models are in stainless steel only and range anywhere from
    $1,150 (AL-525) - $2,795 (AL-860) retail. All stainless steel
    Startimer Classics come limited to 8,888 pieces and include a Cessna
    Citation Mustang private jet scale model.

    The 18kt version I have pictured today is limited to 888 pieces (and
    come with the model jet). There are very few of this variation coming
    to the US, so I figured it would be a nice way to introduce the

    AL-710BARG-1 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-710BARG-2 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-710BARG-3 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    The AL-710 caliber is decorated to every last degree and also
    meticulously tested for accuracy in extreme temperatures to insure the
    finest quality. Most importantly, the design and developing for this
    movement is done completely in-house. This is nothing unusual to see
    in itself, but one of my favorite aspects of Alpina is that they can
    do it reasonably. They have a huge variety of in-house manufactured
    movements for $2,000 - $3,000, where most manufactures easily charge
    $5,000 for a simple 3 hand/date. I've even seen an ETA based with the
    same function for $10,000! That just doesn't make sense to me, but to
    each their own.

    AL-710BARG-4 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    Basically, what you have in the AL-710 is the simple three hand
    display, with a date wheel at 6 o'clock, manufactured in house for
    $2,195 in steel. The 18kt, of course, is the exception to reasonable,
    at $10,900 (but still not too bad for in-house with 18kt gold). The
    AL-710's have 28,800 bph with a Glucydur balance wheel, Nivarox
    springs, Côtes de Genève on every visible part, blue screws and a
    trademark PVD Geneva Striped Alpina rotors. They truly do a beautiful
    job and performance has been outstanding.

    AL-710BARG-5 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-710BARG-6 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    AL-710BARG-7 by JoeAZFT, on Flickr

    Feel free to check out more Alpina's on AZ Fine Time...
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    Finally.... We will be hosting an Alpina and Frederique Constant Trunk
    Show here in our Scottsdale location on December 16th from 3-7pm. If
    you are in the area, please come by and visit us and Alpina/FC sales
    rep Amy. She's a pleasure to talk to and will be bringing in some
    very special items from both brands for everyone to see 1st hand. We
    are also going to be hosting a cigar party with 2 of the top
    manufactures in the Cigar Industry, Alan Rubin of Alec Bradley Cigar
    and Jonathan Drew of Drew Estates. We will have local award winning
    chef Darryl King catering the event with some great free eats as well
    as free drinks and even a complimentary cigar for attending. On top
    of that you get to see and try on some very cool watches!

    Click here for a map...
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    As always, thank you to everyone on the forum for all your support and
    please let me know if I can ever be any help. That's what I'm here

    Happy Holidays!


  2. #2
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    Dec 2008
    Maryland USA

    Re: Alpina Startimer Pilot Watch and Frederique Constant - Alpina Trunk show @ AZ Fine Time

    Very nice, I like them all, especially with the raised numbers! Sounds like a pretty good deal on the basic classic also.

    Too many watches, only two wrists and never enough time...

  3. #3
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    San Jose, California-USA

    Re: Alpina Startimer Pilot Watch and Frederique Constant - Alpina Trunk show @ AZ Fine Time

    Like them, except for the crown. Those upside pictures my teeth grind.
    Last edited by Watchbreath; December 7th, 2011 at 02:58.

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