Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?
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    Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    So I've been doing some research on Zeniths recently & really like the tri-colored dials. The earliest samples from the late 60s/early 70s had minimally overlapping subdials such that they were 100% legible. The 38mm modern day is also legible but I prefer a size of 40mm. Was there ever a 40mm legible tri-color El Primero?

    The 'piece on the left is the modern day version with significantly overlapping dials such that the markers are 'covered' up. The 'piece on the right's subdials are entirely legible.

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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Not that I'm aware of. I'm in the process of purchasing the 38mm El Primero. I decided that the overlap would not bother me.

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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daverino View Post
    Not that I'm aware of. I'm in the process of purchasing the 38mm El Primero. I decided that the overlap would not bother me.
    IIRC, the 38mm has minimal overlap

    BTW, congrats!
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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Here's my 38mm... It has huge overlap, in my opinion, but it doesn't bother me.

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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Quote Originally Posted by ImitationOfLife View Post
    Here's my 38mm... It has huge overlap, in my opinion, but it doesn't bother me.

    I didn't know you had that one. That's a beauty.
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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Quote Originally Posted by IGotId View Post
    IIRC, the 38mm has minimal overlap

    BTW, congrats!
    Quote Originally Posted by ImitationOfLife View Post
    Here's my 38mm... It has huge overlap, in my opinion, but it doesn't bother me.

    I stand corrected! Lol! Lovely 'piece!
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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    To my knowledge the only current model tri-colour EP's are the 38mm and 42mm, both with overlap. There are however several other modern EP's without overlap, such as the Captain series. Like Imitation of Life I enjoy my 38mm EP for what it is: a funky, finely detailed, beautifully built little gem. Personally the overlap doesn't trouble me. There is no issue with partial obscuration of the running seconds since, if you are using the chrono function, the central seconds is doing that job. The only issue is with partial obscuration of the minute counter. Yeah I'd prefer if that didn't happen, but it's never impeded my enjoyment of the watch. YMMV of course!

    BTW if you decide you can live with the overlap, and want a tri-colour in 42mm, you can now get that without the costly Striking 1/10th complication of the watch in your pic....

    Here's another pic of the 38mm, just for the heck of it!

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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    The 42mm is on my short list. It might be a little while coming, but I plan on getting one in the next few years.

    Those of you that have one, in either 38 or 42mm, do you mind posting a photo of the crystal from the side? How tall is the crystal?
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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    Quote Originally Posted by lmcgbaj View Post
    I didn't know you had that one. That's a beauty.
    It's new!

    More pictures here, if you're interested.

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/how-...ou-962782.html
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    Re: Is anyone aware of a 'modern'-sized tri-color El Primero with minimally overlapping subdials?

    I prefer my el primero
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