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    Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    Can someone tell me what automatic movements especially "dislike" hand winding? We all know ETA 2824-2 (in my Steinhart) is notorious for eating itself up if you hand wind it regularly. What about other watches from my signature, specifically both Sea-Gulls? It would be nice if we could compile a list of movements that don't themselves and why exactly this happens. Or are ALL automatics prone to this?
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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    Good question......But I think all....Kinda like owning an automatic transmission car
    and deciding to shift it all the time like a standard.....Not the way it was made.
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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    No experience as I simply don't hand wind the sole automatic watch I have. I have about 20 handwinds and can take my obsessive compulsive tendencies out on them. My auto is a Russian Vostok and I haven't heard of that particular watch having problems if you do hand wind.
    I also do not hand wind an electric mixer. Nor do I eschew the remote and go adjust the channels on my TV by hand.

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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    Good analogy....
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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray MacDonald View Post
    No experience as I simply don't hand wind the sole automatic watch I have. I have about 20 handwinds and can take my obsessive compulsive tendencies out on them. My auto is a Russian Vostok and I haven't heard of that particular watch having problems if you do hand wind.
    I also do not hand wind an electric mixer. Nor do I eschew the remote and go adjust the channels on my TV by hand.
    A Vostok uses the same automatic system as the 2824 and the 3035.....
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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    I used to handwind one of my automatics, but now I just wear them for an hour before setting them. If they are still not running, a quick shake gets the second hand moving.

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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    If the 2824-2 is bad then I suppose the 2836-2 suffers the same issue ?

    My autos (apart from the vintage cal. 1012) starts running with a quick shake so I don't usually handwind them.

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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    Hmmm, I guess it depends on the definition of hand winding "regularly".

    Is that every day? once a week? once a month?

    Is it 5 winds? 10 winds? 30 winds?

    I gave up on watch winders and have almost always started a new automatic watch in my rotation with a few hand winds, minimum of 5, maximum of 10. So in a rotation system I guess the frequency of this hand winding on any particular watch would be once a month at the very most and in reality is less often than that. Haven't had a problem in the last 30 years so I guess it's not hurting.

    Whilst I have not bothered to read up on hand winding issues with movements such as the 2824-2, I assume it would be related to a bit more winding than getting the watch started from scratch every now and then? Of course I would be happy to be corrected if there is info to the contrary, but based on my experience, it doesn't mean I have to believe it

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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    So you shouldn't hand wind automatic watch. I do it every other day to make sure it doesn't die.

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    Re: Automatic movements that don't like hand winding?

    A comprehensive list of at risk movements would be very handy indeed but until I see one I just play safe and assume (rightly or wrongly) that hand winding is best avoided on all automatics.
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