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    Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    Would you require / have you required box and papers when buying a higher end watch like a sub? If so, why?

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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

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    Would you require / have you required box and papers when buying a higher end watch like a sub? If so, why?
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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    Most of the time, if purchased from an AD, you'll get house box and papers.

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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    No if I plan to wear and utilize it. Yes if I’m one of those folks who sees it as an investment in which one day I would sell. I’m the first option.


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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    Wouldn’t require but, 1. It’s going to require more due diligence regarding the seller and provenance of the watch and 2. I would bid less on the watch than if it had box and papers.



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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    It increases the value. It can also help to prove authenticity, which on a heavily faked watch like a Rolex can add peace of mind to a buyer. I would personally pay more for box and papers, as I think it protects the value of your investment a little bit more. And even if you intend to wear the watch, and not to sell it, I don't see how protecting the value is bad thing.

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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    B&P is nice to get, but the condition of the watch is a whole lot bigger deal-- and, they aren't connected.

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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    Given how frequently Subs are counterfeited and how good some of the counterfeits can be, I'd want the box and papers as some extra assurance of provenance unless I was purchasing from an AD.
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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    Yes preferably with box and papers unless I am buying from a watchmaker or an over the long run Rolex trusted AD
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    Re: Box and Paper...is it a deal breaker if you're buying a used Rolex sub?

    I'm pretty neutral about it as long as the difference is priced accordingly. My Sub came with the box and manual but no warranty card, and even though my model isn't easily faked and it came from a reputable dealer, it still had it opened up and inspected. If it is a new model Sub, the box and papers add value but they don't provide any security of authenticity as people are faking the papers too. On the flip side, I don't consider a lack of box or papers a red flag at all, no matter how new the watch is. You have to keep in mind most people don't care about the box, maybe they throw it away, or maybe they keep it but after a few years of owning it if they decide to sell they probably can't find it anymore. That sounds crazy to us but trust me, we're the crazy ones...
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