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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    According to watchitallabout, there will be a 40mm version:

    Christopher Ward 10th Anniversary Launch – SH21 and C9 5 Day Auto | Watch It All About

    Finally, the C9 5 day auto. Yes, it’s 43mm, but a 40mm version is coming soon. It’s beautiful, just like all the other Harrison watches. And yes it costs £1500, which is a lot. But don’t forget what your paying for. First, the COSC chronometer certification is £100 straight out of that. Then think about the 4 years it has taken to develop this movement. How much more would an equivalent from one of the big Swiss manufacturers cost? Johannes said that the SH21 is made so much better and will last longer. And I believe him as he talked a load of jargon at me to prove it. It went over my head naturally.

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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Can't you guys appreciate a good movement without worrying about something as intangible as inhouse?
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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by WnS View Post
    Can't you guys appreciate a good movement without worrying about something as intangible as inhouse?
    Of course. However like a said earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by geoffbot View Post
    selling point of this watch is that its in house so surely you can understand why people would be displeased that its not in fact in house

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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by X2-Elijah View Post
    Note on pricing:

    Apparently, the cheapest CW watches will go with this new movement is 1500 (dollars? pounds? no idea..); source: https://twitter.com/ChrisWardLondon/...15792804294656
    Pretty sure that will be GBP (English company after all, and us English folk don't talk in dollars as default)
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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by WnS View Post
    Can't you guys appreciate a good movement without worrying about something as intangible as inhouse?
    Some people can only appreciate a watch that was developed and hand-built by a genetic line of people created hundreds of years ago, who are so specialized in what they do that one eye socket is bigger to hold their loupe, and their fingers have evolved to be smaller in order to handle smaller parts and tools. They never see sunlight and they are whipped into submission from birth. They wear incredibly fine clothing bestowed upon them by their owners, but own nothing.

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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    I can't stop wondering about how very enthusiastic they are being about the thickness of the movement - talking about how robust it will make it etc.

    I'm wondering if there is a financial benefit to making movement so thick - is it cheaper to build a thick, less delicate movement? Is it easier to acheive COSC standards with a bigger movement - ie will there be a lower rejection rate?

    If so, is the emphasis on the benefits of the thick movement partially a smokescreen - to make it look like having a thick movement was 100% a design decision, and not one which included a fat slug of financial rationale?

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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by WnS View Post
    Can't you guys appreciate a good movement without worrying about something as intangible as inhouse?
    How exactly do we know it's a good movement? We only know that it's in-house and that it has 5 day power reserve. Do we know anything about the actual accuracy, reliability, servicing intervals and costs ...?

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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Amf View Post
    I can't stop wondering about how very enthusiastic they are being about the thickness of the movement - talking about how robust it will make it etc.

    I'm wondering if there is a financial benefit to making movement so thick - is it cheaper to build a thick, less delicate movement? Is it easier to acheive COSC standards with a bigger movement - ie will there be a lower rejection rate?

    If so, is the emphasis on the benefits of the thick movement partially a smokescreen - to make it look like having a thick movement was 100% a design decision, and not one which included a fat slug of financial rationale?
    As far as I understand it, part of the thickness comes from the second barrel mounted in series to achieve the 120 hour PR.

    If as they said they can remove it in order to make room for other complications, I assume they could also remove it to make it thinner.

    I'm doubtful that making thicker components for added robustness was necessary! So that part might be a smokescreen.
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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by geoffbot View Post
    Of course. However like a said earlier
    Since CW is merging with Synergies, how is it not in-house?
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    Re: Chris Ward Announces New In House Movement and Merger with Synergies Horologies

    Quote Originally Posted by sduford View Post
    Since CW is merging with Synergies, how is it not in-house?
    I didn't say that it was or wasn't, just that its probably an important detail, if they're making such a noise about it.

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