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    Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Backstory, I own a Fortis B42 Cosmonautis (non Chrono) and it has the ETA 2836-2 movement and I got it for a deal from an AD for $890 on bracelet. So now the watch itch has started again and I am looking at the Doxa 1200 Sub which has a ETA 2824-2 movement (it's also a grail watch for me). I know that they are essentially the same guts aside from the Fortis 2836-2 has a date wheel and the Doxa does not. My question is why the huge price gap between the two if they have similar sized cases at roughly 42mm and similarly priced movements. I know the fortis is 200 meters WR and the Doxa is much higher but is that all in case design ? I mean $890 vs $1900 is a huge jump. Im not looking to start a war here, and I know they are build for 2 different uses but it's just staggering the difference.

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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Really...?
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    So I guess we get mocked for asking questions now ? Yes I'm serious, I'm asking to learn, not to get flamed
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    There are so many elements involved in this. Is the Doxa worth twice as much as the Fortis? Probably not, depending on your objective for owning either one. Cannot really be more helpful than that because it is a big can of worms and snails and oyster guts to untangle. Might as well ask why the Christopher Ward Trident Pro is only $1000.
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    The 2824 comes in 4 different finishes from ETA. The 2836 probably comes in several also. Some of the differences are the balance, hairspring and shock system used.

    My guess is that the Fortis uses a better finished version than the Doxa.

    The 2824 is also used in watches retailing for several thousand dollars. Some are even chronometer spec or certified.
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Well that works for a response, I can accept the "personal choices & Complicated" answer. Here in Alaska we have very few watch say people so its not like I can walk into an AD and ask questions. We lost our Omega dealer and the only things we have are a Ben Bridge for Rolex and a bunch of Fred Meyer jewelers for Tissot. So asking on the internet is the only thing I have.

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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Thank you, getting back into the hobby after few years off and forcing to lose things Im trying to restart a collection and making sure that I spend my $ wisely.

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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    You are over paying for the Doxa, but there is nothing like them. They are iconic, legendary, and very distinctive.

    They are better finished than Fortis. I have owned 2 Doxas and will say in the hand they come across as jewelry-like. I have handled numerous Fortis and would never say Fortis is like jewelry. Doxa watches are beautiful, and nice finishing is labor intensive. Pay their premium if you really like the watch.

    With Doxa, you pay a little extra for aesthetics, detailing and heritage. Have you held one?
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Baka1969 View Post
    The 2824 comes in 4 different finishes from ETA. The 2836 probably comes in several also. Some of the differences are the balance, hairspring and shock system used.

    My guess is that the Fortis uses a better finished version than the Doxa.

    The 2824 is also used in watches retailing for several thousand dollars. Some are even chronometer spec or certified.

    My error, I meant the opposite. The Doxa being better finished. Oops. My bad.
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    Re: Doxa ETA 2824-2 versus Fortis 2836-2 Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary123 View Post
    You are over paying for the Doxa, but there is nothing like them. They are iconic, legendary, and very distinctive.

    They are better finished than Fortis. I have owned 2 Doxas and will say in the hand they come across as jewelry-like. I have handled numerous Fortis and would never say Fortis is like jewelry. Doxa watches are beautiful, and nice finishing is labor intensive. Pay their premium if you really like the watch.

    With Doxa, you are pay a little extra for aesthetics, detailing and heritage. Have you held one?
    I've owned 2 Sub 1200 Professionals, lost both in divorce. I remember the beads of rice bracelet on it is like no other metal strap ive had on a watch. The Doxa 1200 was a close second to my Omega Planet open XL with the 2500 movement that the ex wife also got. I thought for years a speedy was what I wanted but since I go to hawaii and swim alot a WR is important.

    The Fortis like you said feels like a tool, heavy, and works. It feels strangely Soviet though, like it's more tool that jewelry. None of the other watches Ive ever owned aside from a Casio G Shock had that "tool" feel. Even the Seiko divers have all felt a little better on the wrist. The Fortis bracelet is terrible and honestly I might move it when I select a replacement

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