ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

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    ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    Hi All,

    I am new to Swiss watches and ETA movements. I have been a Seiko freak for several years now and a recent purchase of a nice used Doxa 750T has been a nice experience getting acquainted with an ETA 2824 movement.

    I have a Doxa 5000T coming in and I have heard many good things about the 2892 movement contained within.

    I have heard the 2892 compared to the Rolex 3135 movement, Grand Seiko movements etc.

    These are both 25 jewel, 28800 bph movements.

    I have heard that the 2824 is really tough and robust, while the 2892 is a bit smaller with lighter parts in in.

    If anyone can give me a "ETA for Dummies" briefing on these movements I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks!

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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    The 24 is a lower end workhorse and the 92 is a higher end workhorse and
    is much thinner. The 24, in auto terms, is like a Chevy stove-bolt six.

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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoodles95 View Post

    I have heard the 2892 compared to the Rolex 3135 movement, Grand Seiko movements etc.

    These are both 25 jewel, 28800 bph movements.

    I have heard that the 2824 is really tough and robust, while the 2892 is a bit smaller with lighter parts in in.
    The 2892 in theory is not as 'sophisticated' a movement as the Rolex 3135 as it does not use a variable-inertia/adjustable-mass balance like the Rolex and has a quick regulator. In terms of performance, as usual you will see more of a difference based on how carefully the movement has been adjusted and regulated. Rolex does very well here due to its use of computer controlled adjustments and also the relatively large and simple designs of its calibres.

    Compared to the 2824, the 2892 has a slightly longer reserve, fewer jewels (which makes relatively little impact on performance), a thicker oscillating weight rotor (offering slightly better robustness while perhaps sacrificing winding efficiency). Also, the lowest available grade of the 2892 is one grade above the lowest 2824. Note that when ordering calibres from ETA, however, one can specify everything from the balance spring to the balance wheel material to the shock protection to the type of decoration. Both the 2824 and 2892, when well specified and well adjusted, are very capable of attaining chronometer certification, as can be seen by the number of Tag Heuer/Breitling 2824 and 2892-based calibres, and the use of the 2892 by Omega and IWC as a base.

    Very boring calibres to look at though.

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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    Quote Originally Posted by spluurfg View Post
    Very boring calibres to look at though.
    The 2824, yes. The 2892 can be made to look very nice, indeed...



    and here's the Rolex 3135...


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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    An ETA 2824-2 can be dolled up to look pretty too.


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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    Wow,

    Some great responses. Thank you. I will read the links provided.

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    Yep, and check out what Christiaan van der Klaauw has done to a 24.
    Quote Originally Posted by lysanderxiii View Post
    An ETA 2824-2 can be dolled up to look pretty too.


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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    It would be interesting to see a comparison between the 8L35 movement in my Marine Master and the 2892 in my incoming Doxa 5000T.

    I really enjoyed reading the attached articles BTW.

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    Re: ETA 2824 vs 2892... Help a ETA newbie here...

    If I remember correctly, isn't Seiko's 8L35 movement actually a Grand Seiko movement but less finished and adjusted/regulated to less positions?

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