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    Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    I've read a lot of threads here and I have never heard anyone complain about a Grand Seiko they ever purchased.

    No one has suggested misalignment, dust under the crystal or on the dial, scratches on the movement, marks on indices, timing issues, etc.

    Is their Quality Control just that good, and if so, why can't other companies follow their lead?
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    Nothing is perfect.

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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    With all the raving, you would think so.
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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    are you kidding me?! there are tons of misalignment stories. tales of second hand not meeting the marker.
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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    I would imagine that they’re pretty darn good on the whole but like Tony said “nothing is perfect”

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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuasam View Post
    are you kidding me?! there are tons of misalignment stories. tales of second hand not meeting the marker.
    Was that a GS thing? I thought that just a Seiko thing...

    Or am I thinking about chapter rings?
    Well, I was standing on a corner in Winslow, AZ and Clara Oswald slowed down to take a look at me and my GS Tiffany SnowflakeTM...

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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    From my sample size of n=1, yes, they're perfect.
    Well, I was standing on a corner in Winslow, AZ and Clara Oswald slowed down to take a look at me and my GS Tiffany SnowflakeTM...

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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Stark View Post
    Is their Quality Control just that good, and if so, why can't other companies follow their lead?
    Two ways to answer this:

    1. Japanese culture prizes perfection and thus they sweat the small details to a degree other cultures might consider beyond "good enough." For the longest time, you couldn't even get Grand Seiko outside of the Japanese domestic market, so for GS to finally decide to go international, they know that it's an uphill battle to be mentioned in the conversation of who's best. You see that bias here on the forums, people saying that there's no way a Japanese brand can compete with Switzerland or Germany, so for GS to be taken seriously, they know they can't have an off-day. I mean, every manufacturer - no matter how precise their processes - creates a dog now and again; but if the customer never sees it, it doesn't exist. So whereas other brands might eschew additional QC checks under the theory that this is why warranties exist, GS understands that they need to be twice as good as everyone else in order to be taken seriously, so they spend the money to make sure those dogs get sniffed out and never make it to the AD or boutique.

    2. Perfection is boring. Why? Because in order to be perfect, you're doing the same thing over and over and over again. So for the folks who think GS is boring, well, that's part of the reason why; the more different things you do, the more variance in your product, the more chance that deviation could create a disruption in your processes. Rolex gets the same accusation ("boring designs") yet has a reputation for quality. This is not an accident. Perfection is also expensive. For anyone wondering why it costs so darn much to service a GS - not even including the polishing, which BTW, requires a trip back to Japan - it's because they continue to sweat the details and you pay for that.

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    Re: Is every Grand Seiko...Perfect?

    The OP of the thread below was complaining about specks on the hands but never did prove the case was unopened. The majority stated that theirs were...perfect.

    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f642/gr...t-4394914.html
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    Most GS are probably as close to being perfect as possible, without actually being perfect. And that's pretty cool.

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