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    Factory Refinishes

    Hey guys, another question from me. Seeing some of the photos of a JLC recently sent off to the factory to be cleaned up, I was wondering how many other companies do this? In particular I was thinking of Seiko.



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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    Have you contacted a Seiko service center? I don't think Seiko themselves will refinish their watch but I'm sure many AD's are capable of it. (or most likely will send it out)


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    Hi takman. I think you may be talking about my vintage JLC that was just refinished. Before & after shots:





    As you can see, it was junk when I bought it. I hate seeing worthy watches get melted down for scrap gold though. I'll give you a brief rundown on the numbers. I paid $356 for that watch (including shipping). It cost $2123 to have it redone at JLC in Le Sentier. Considering the last one exactly like it sold on eBay in summer of 2008 for $1750 in decent shape with some patina on the dial, I doubt I would recover my money if I sold it even though it's like new. Although I have no intention of selling it, this is not exactly financially responsible! ....but then again, what part of this hobby is?

    Getting in to restorations is a gamble. I've done a few, and the bottom line sometimes swings your way and sometimes not. Another recent project I did was a vintage Heuer. Before & after shots:





    This one cost $1446 after all was said & done. A forum member who specializes in Heuers did the work. A bad relume forced me to source a NOS dial which was $320! Plenty of these Autavia models do not need this expense as their dials are usually in nice shape. Still, I could easily break even and maybe make a few bucks, but I like it too much. (That's a common problem with vintage junkies ).

    I have done a vintage Omega 18K Seamaster that would earn me a few hundred bucks - if I could part with it - and an IWC Spitfire that would be a minor loss if I flipped it. Donut has a Breguet that he sent in for an overhaul. When I saw his post on that a while back it inspired me to take on a few challenges.

    Now, the reason I tell you all this is because you should know up front that you might be buying a money pit. Most are better off paying the premium for a mint vintage example. If it's a watch you already own and is an heirloom though you should DEFINITELY have it restored. There is no substitute for a watch with sentimental value and family history. I know a couple serious Seiko guys - if you want, shoot me a PM with a pic of the watch or post it here. I'll ask them what they recommend.

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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    Quote Originally Posted by takman View Post
    Hey guys, another question from me. Seeing some of the photos of a JLC recently sent off to the factory to be cleaned up, I was wondering how many other companies do this? In particular I was thinking of Seiko.
    When you say "cleaned up", are you talking case? Dial? Movement? and is it newer or vintage?
    Even if Seiko doesn't do restorations (not sure if they do or not), there are some individuals out there that do case repair, crystal work and movements as well as some companies that do dial refinishing.
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    Thank you, ulackfocus for gracing my thread with your pics, I sent the PM just now

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorC View Post
    When you say "cleaned up", are you talking case? Dial? Movement? and is it newer or vintage?
    Even if Seiko doesn't do restorations (not sure if they do or not), there are some individuals out there that do case repair, crystal work and movements as well as some companies that do dial refinishing.
    Its mostly the case and the bracelet that need attention, and it is a vintage piece from the early 80s. Some scratches and flaking of the gold plating is the main issue. Not sure if the movement needs to be serviced because its keeping ok time by my standards (I think it is something like +1min/ 3 months or so), but then again I doubt its been serviced in its lifetime except for battery changes.

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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    Omega do that kind of work too. Thy did my first "proper" watch, an Omaga Constelation f300 I had used and abused ince -74
    I think it cost close to £1000 about 6 years ago or so.
    The result, but the scratch on the crystal is a newer addition:


    At the moment, Omega has another one to give the full attention, a 1976 Chrono Quartz.

    OP! Could you post a pic of the watch you would like to have done?
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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    Hi,

    The Grand Seiko service center in Japan will refinish GS's. This is a relatively new service and they quoted me JPY 27,000.

    Not sure if Seiko refinishes other watches though.

    Best-

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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    Quote Originally Posted by G07 View Post
    The Grand Seiko service center in Japan will refinish GS's.
    Will you share the contact information? It would be greatly appreciated!

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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    No problem - here's the email I rec'd from Seiko Japan.
    Best-
    John


    Thank you for your patronage of our products.
    Regarding your inquiry about the GRAND SEIKO watch, we would like to inform you that the
    cost for a battery replacement is JPY 5,000, and it only includes a water-resistant test.
    Also, the cost for polishing the watch case and band is JPY 27,000.
    However, our policy does not allow us to sell watches, parts or batteries to individual
    customers; therefore, we suggest you send your watch to us for an inspection and service
    because service for the GRAND SEIKO watches are handled in GRAND SEIKO SERVICE
    STATION in Japan.
    Upon receipt of your watch and inspection by our technical specialist, we will inform
    you of the result of the inspection and the estimated charge for confirmation.
    The address is as follows:

    SEIKO WATCH CORPORATION
    CS Department
    2-1, Shibaura 1-chome, Minato-ku,
    Tokyo 105-8467
    Tel: +81-3-6401-3498

    When you send the watch to us, please take care with the packing, but please note that
    we will not be able to return the packing/box.

    We appreciate your cooperation in this matter and await the arrival of your watch.

    With best regards,
    Atsushi HORIBA, CS Dept.
    SEIKO WATCH CORPORATION
    ************************************************** **********************

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    Re: Factory Refinishes

    I added some photos onto the original post

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