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    Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Hi,

    Here is my full collection at present:

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    1: Diver (actually used as a beater): Seiko Prospex Sea Monster SRP581
    2: Sports (actually used as a dress watch): Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 blue
    3: Dress (actually used as a casual/semi-formal watch): Hamilton Intra-Matic 38 silver dial
    4: Complication (actually used as a casual/semi-formal watch): Montblanc Star Worldtime GMT

    Now I really love the Seiko Prospex SRP581 Sea Monster. In fact I wear it 90% of the time out of all my watches. I love the lacquered blue bezel which changes hues of blue in the light the most. I love the Strapcode Super Engineer II PVD bracelet I have for it with ratcheting clasp (a huge relief for when my wrist contracts or expands). I love how comfortable it is even though it's heavy, on my wrist. I love the insane amount of lume, and the day-date complication which is really useful. I love its unique looks as well (it's not a Submariner homage). The only issue I have with it is that it's PVD. Potentially, the bracelet and case could be scratched at some point and it won't be able to be fixed, although I love the look of brushed and polished black PVD. So I've been thinking of whether I should sell it and upgrade it to another tool diver watch.

    a. Option a: Keep my Seiko Sea Monster

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    Pros:
    - Lacquered blue bezel looks amazing
    - Strapcode Super Engineer II with ratcheting clasp bracelet is amazingly comfortable and convenient to quick-adjust
    - Lume is unbeleivable
    - 4R36 movement isn't bad, day-date complication is very useful
    - It's a Monster (unique looks)
    - It's less than $1000 (at least for now, these are getting more rare), so it's useful as a beater in that case

    Cons:
    - It's PVD; if I scratch the case or bracelet (though I haven't so far) I won't be able to fix it or get it fixed via servicing
    - 4R36 movement is fine but after a few weeks it gets pretty inacurrate on the time (like it's off by minutes) since it's +8 seconds/day for me; not bad in the long-scheme of things but you can find more accurate movements (or even quartz)

    So, the alternatives are as follows. Should I upgrade at all, or should I just keep the Sea Monster (especially as it's pretty rare now and prices are creeping upwards for it)? If I were to upgrade, I'd want something with equal or better lume, equal or better comfort (and quick-adjust on the clasp is pretty important to me), unique looks, and a hint of blue. So other than the Deepsea Sea-dweller (which fulfills all these criteria but is way out of my price range), here are the choices I'm thinking of:

    1. Option 1
    : Tudor Black Bay Blue. For around 2k it would probably have to be the ETA version (but these are apparently going to be more rare than the in-house version so maybe more worth getting)

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    Pros:
    - Really nice looks and great finishing
    - Good lume (better than Monster?...probably not)
    - Very, very comfortable bracelet with a nice clasp (I know what this means as I own a Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 iwth oysterclasp, and it feels amazing on the wrist)
    - Rolex quality without Rolex prices
    - Made of stainless steel (and not PVD)
    - Hint of blue (on bezel)

    Cons:
    - Aluminum bezel only (can be scratched)
    - No quick-adjustment on clasp
    - Lume is probably weaker than the Monster I have

    2. Option 2: Omega SMP 2230.50 (white gold bezel) with new Omega Seamaster quick-adjust clasp bought extra


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    Pros:
    - Great finishing and looks
    - Bezel is white gold
    - Quick-adjust clasp (if bought extra)
    - Bracelet is very comfortable
    - Made of stainless steel (and not PVD)
    - Original SMP wave pattern dial (which I think looks great and is iconic)
    - Great lume (better than Monster?)

    Cons:
    - I think white gold can scratch still, and maybe is not as practical for a diver watch bezel
    - No hint of blue

    3. Option 3: Seiko SBBN037 Marinemaster "Blue Ocean" Tuna

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    Pros:
    - Same lacquered blue bezel as my Sea Monster (which I love)
    - It's a Tuna (super unique; shroud protects bezel and watch overall)
    - It's a Seiko Marinemaster
    - Awesome lume (better than Monster?)
    - High-end quartz movement with day-date (super useful complication); would be even more accurate than my Sea Monster and would require less maintenance overtime as a beater; also easier to use for grab and go situations
    - Quick-adjust clasp if I get a stainless steel Strapcode Super Engineer II bracelet with ratcheting clasp for it
    - Would work great with a rubber strap, like from Crafter Blue
    - Made of stainless steel (and not PVD)
    - Hint of blue

    Cons:
    - Quartz movement (is this a con?); way easier to maintain overtime and way more accurate and easier to use as a beater but lacks the mystique of a mechanical movement (but I have 3 other watches for that so is it really necessary?)
    - I would have to get an aftermarket bracelet with ratcheting clasp to make it perfect (Strapcode); although the bracelet is awesome in my experience and I absolutely love it, it would've been nice to have an OEM Seiko clasp that's quick-adjust (like the Marinemaster 300M has, or the Omega SMP quick-adjust clasp I mentioned above)
    - Overall these 2 above cons aren't huge problems
    - Lack of applied indices

    4. Option 4: Seiko Marinemaster 300m

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    Pros:
    - Lacquered bezel (but not in blue)
    - It's a Seiko Marinemaster
    - Zaratsu finishing (better than Rolex?)
    - Awesome lume (better than Monster?)
    - High-end Seiko automatic movement
    - In-house OEM Seiko Marinemaster quick-adjust ratcheting clasp
    - Would work great with a rubber strap, like from Crafter Blue
    - Made of stainless steel (and not PVD)

    Cons:
    - No hint of blue
    - Date but no day complication (not a huge deal though)
    - Ratcheting clasp doesn't look as elegant as Strapcode's solution; clasp itself looks like the style of stamped clasps by Seiko though I'm unsure if it's milled or stamped (not huge deal though)
    - Maybe slightly too thick for the style of the design? (but then again maybe not)

    So what should I do in your opinion? Any suggestions?
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    2: Sports watches - Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 blue, Seiko SRP581 Sea Monster



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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Yes, id get the marine master or Tuna, probably the MM out of those selections.



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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobia View Post
    Yes, id get the marine master or Tuna, probably the MM out of those selections.
    Why?
    1: Dress watches - Montblanc Star Worldtime GMT, Hamilton Intra-Matic
    2: Sports watches - Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 blue, Seiko SRP581 Sea Monster



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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Here's a cheaper option -- get this and use it to touch up the PVD. You'll never notice the difference from 20cm. But if you must: great choice on the SMP imho.

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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeAssemblyRequired View Post
    Here's a cheaper option -- get this and use it to touch up the PVD. You'll never notice the difference from 20cm. But if you must: great choice on the SMP imho.

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    Wow, I never knew about this. I haven't scratched my PVD yet though.
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    2: Sports watches - Rolex Oyster Perpetual 39 blue, Seiko SRP581 Sea Monster



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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by tayyabpirzada View Post
    Wow, I never knew about this. I haven't scratched my PVD yet though.
    It is a black marker.

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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    If you wear the current Seiko 90% of the time and love it but are considering upgrading doesn't that leave the rest of the 3 pieces up for grabs too?

    Unique Blue divers that don't get as play as others........ Maybe gut the 4 collection and start over with something unusual and unique and not what Bob your Uncle has heard of????
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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heljestrand View Post
    If you wear the current Seiko 90% of the time and love it but are considering upgrading doesn't that leave the rest of the 3 pieces up for grabs too?

    Unique Blue divers that don't get as play as others........ Maybe gut the 4 collection and start over with something unusual and unique and not what Bob your Uncle has heard of????
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    That IWC looks spectacular. But no, I really love my 3 other watches as well, and would like to keep a 4-watch collection going. I am simply enquiring about my diver of whether I should upgrade or not.
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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by tayyabpirzada View Post
    That IWC looks spectacular. But no, I really love my 3 other watches as well, and would like to keep a 4-watch collection going. I am simply enquiring about my diver of whether I should upgrade or not.
    Of the ones that you mentioned then I would probably just keep the one you have. I almost purchased that same model because it is quite unique and the bezel is spectacular. There is a reason you wear it 90% of the time no? I wear a blue dial Sumo about 90% of the time because it works well for my profession which is that as a part of a culinary team primarily as a Garde Manger (Pantry Chef) and lots of water and liquids prevail as well as using the bezel for timing reminders.
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    Re: Help: Should I upgrade my diver watch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heljestrand View Post
    Of the ones that you mentioned then I would probably just keep the one you have. I almost purchased that same model because it is quite unique and the bezel is spectacular. There is a reason you wear it 90% of the time no? I wear a blue dial Sumo about 90% of the time because it works well for my profession which is that as a part of a culinary team primarily as a Garde Manger (Pantry Chef) and lots of water and liquids prevail as well as using the bezel for timing reminders.
    hmm...you might be right. i think i might just keep it.
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