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    How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    As the question suggests, I've been wondering about the number of watchmakers worldwide that actually make EVERYTHING that go into their watches, the rubies, the case, the movement, the hands, the bracelet (I could go on)- EVERYTHING - in their own factory? I've seen threads where people have listed watchmakers that make their own movements, but then outsourced the assembly of their watches in another country. Or those that have the bracelet, case or parts of the movement made in China. I'm talking about the watchmakers that make everything in the one factory complex. I'm curious, because, with current manufacturing trends, there simply can't be too many left. And I guess for this privilege, you would pay a premium. So, can anyone help me, are there any left?
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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    Roger Smith (maybe)

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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucks View Post
    As the question suggests, I've been curious about the number of watchmakers worldwide that actually make EVERYTHING that goes into their watches, the rubies, the case, the movement, the hands, the bracelet (I could go on)- EVERYTHING - in their own factory? I've seen threads where people have listed watchmakers that make their own movements, but then outsourced the assembly of their watches in another country. I'm talking about the watchmakers that make everything in the one factory complex. I'm curious, because, with current manufacturing trends, there simply can't be too many left. And I guess for this privilege, you would pay a premium. So, can anyone help me, are there any left?
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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    725341819......seriously dude there isn’t a way to figure that out althoug the answer is probably 0

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    Surely there's some nerd somewhere that has this useless piece of information??? Oh well, just have to die not knowing...

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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    If you mean literally everything, then none, and it will never change.

    No watch company will start manufacturing all the pieces that goes into a watch - screws, gaskets, crystal, AR material, lume material, paint / ink, dial material and I go on and on.

    You first need to clearly state where you draw the line. Is sourcing glue, AR material, ink, lume still OK? How about the crystal itself? The screws? I guess you see the problem with such a question.
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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    Ok, I can see the problem with the question. I'll rephrase. I'm not talking about glue or paint or the plastic it's wrapped in or the box that it comes in,etc. I'm talking about the whole movement, dial, case, bracelet, hands, rubies, crown, etc- all of the 'nuts and bolts' so to speak of the watch. Are there any watchmakers that make all of these components in the one location and assemble it themselves?

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    Seiko.
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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    Quote Originally Posted by kramerica View Post
    If you mean literally everything, then none, and it will never change.

    No watch company will start manufacturing all the pieces that goes into a watch - screws, gaskets, crystal, AR material, lume material, paint / ink, dial material and I go on and on.

    You first need to clearly state where you draw the line. Is sourcing glue, AR material, ink, lume still OK? How about the crystal itself? The screws? I guess you see the problem with such a question.
    ^^ This.

    My first answer to this thread might have been very short, but I think it's the only correct one if you include e.g. the rubies, which were specifically mentioned in the OP. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that doesn't source these parts from a specialized supplier. At some point it just doesn't make any sense doing it yourself.

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    Re: How many brands worldwide actually make their whole mechanical piece from start to finish?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucks View Post
    watchmakers that make everything in the one factory complex.
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